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  • murphy

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    March 4, 2020 at 8:08 pm in reply to: Solubilisers

    There is no one fits all solubilizer for fragrances,  As noted by Perry. In terms of efficiency (lowest solubilizer:fragrance oil) ratio required , every fragrance is unique . Depending on their composition , some are more difficult to solubilize. Without knowing the components , it becomes trial and error , and in this game 2 is better than 1 (surfactant) 
    Without going too deep , the “strongest” which I interpret as most efficient I have used is c12-c13 pareth 9 . An additional solubilizer such as hexanediol may be useful in reducing the amount of surfactant required to solubilize . 
    Fragrances like eucalyptus, lavender, and others will be more difficult so you have to treat each fragrance individually , experiment and find the best solution 

  • murphy

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    November 6, 2019 at 8:28 pm in reply to: Quiz ??what have I formulated lol

    @Perry  What would recommend a good one pot cream conditioner starter formula (%’s) for BTMC (80) and Cetearyl Alcohol? 

  • murphy

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    January 22, 2019 at 4:05 am in reply to: Cream Turning Pink with Aspen bark and honeysuckle extract

    0.1- 0.2% edta ..

  • murphy

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    January 22, 2019 at 4:04 am in reply to: Cream Turning Pink with Aspen bark and honeysuckle extract

    Jodie said:

    Hi everyone,
    I have been using natapres in a facial cream but I can no longer find it anywhere.
    I’ve been experimenting with different variations of the ingredients in natapres: Glycerin, Leuconostoc/Radish Root Ferment
    Filtrate, Lonicera Japonica (Honeysuckle) Flower Extract, Lonicera Caprifolium (Honeysuckle) Flower Extract, Populus Tremuloides Bark Extract, Gluconolactone
    but both the aspen bark and the honeysuckle extract react with citral and turn it pink (it was scented with different eo’s one of them being litsea cubeba oil). The color change is definitely more pronounced with lower ph versions, but it is apparent regardless of the ph of the sample formulas. Some turn pink immediately (really pink) and others mellow into a peachy color after a couple of days.

    I was wondering if adding a chelating agent might decrease the color change. I can’t figure out why I never had this issue with the natapres. In my searching, I found that earlier literature on Natapres mentioned the possibility of a color change, while later they state that it will not change colors.

    Any insights are appreciated.
    Thanks!