MaidenOrangeBlossom
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Natural. Vegan. Cruelty free. Fair trade. Handmade. Fragrance free….I could go on and on with how misleading these words are. Best to stay far away from these claims unless your client is hell bent on requiring this level of marketing.
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Off the top of my head, the lipid profile is sparse. Fats tend to stick. I personally have never been able to successfully deploy guar in my conditioning formulas but everyone else has so I am not sure of the entire formula. My conditioners stick like a mother. Its literally the best conditioner so I keep the formula top secret. However, in comparison I use far more lipids. About 16%, its thick enough when I melt the bar down. The BTMS level looks good but you can even lower it 1-2 percent and add a secondary fatty acid. I avoid silicones so I don’t know how it works in your formula but I’ve been able to achieve similar shine with cupuacu butter and glycerin.
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Its very underappreciated for what it does. Its a must have.
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I would put it on the label in case it’s sold in other markets that have more stringent labeling requirements.
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Have you tried a solubalizer?
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How large does the sample need to be? The products are expensive so I wanted to keep maybe a 10ml sample?
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Considering this:
NeoDefend
(GeoGard Ultra, MicroGuard)
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CB is gentle but not for eczema, I love castille soap for toothpaste. I’m not sure if it works in anything other than homemade toothpaste but its super gentle.
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When you describe it like that it’s very easy to understand. I think dermatologists do a disservice when they say they don’t know but don’t recommend it for eczema. Had I not experienced skin issues like this, I still would be using them. Ironically I resolved some skin problems with essential oils but it was playing russian roulette. The more you use it, the more you’re likely to develop allergies, not less likely. I solely use it for aromatherapy now or lightly masking. One drop for 150ml of product and even then I am very hesitant. So I’ve marketed my products as sensitive so that not having a scent won’t hurt sales. Its incredible how heavily everything is scented. For wash off products or hair care, I am not as vigilant but eventually, none of my products will have any scent at all. I only added pineapple to my hair serum because the oat turns it an ugly yellow so its just marketing and one drop for 10 8oz bottles.
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that’s frightening! But one reason why I stopped using most essential oils in most of my products. After my last eczema flare, it scared the bejesus out of me. The science is not there yet.
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dermatologists
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I’ve had good results from the 10% in terms of usage and no crystalization. I use a high amount of glycerin which helps but can be slightly sticky. Some experts say that 10% works on deep wrinkles, severe acne, aging, eczema but without studies, I can’t confirm their experience.
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When I change ingredients and can’t afford relabeling, I highlight it very strongly on my website lol. However, when I worked in the industry as a contractor, I called NIST and spoke directly to the director who provided very valuable information. Never underestimate the power of calling people 🙂
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Dermatologist recommendation when I had a flare so bad I had to go to the urgent care center. All of the dermatologists I saw said to look for these ingredients and that they were safe. I’d like to include some of my favorite ingredients but the more you add they higher the likelihood of reactions, especially with unproven ingredients.
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Hyaluronic serum: niacinimide, glycerin, aloe, and panthenol. Not a spray just a light serum for sensitive and eczema prone skin. I try not to get into the medical claims arena so I am just advertising as gentle niacinamide serum
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I actually use this, its incredible! The vegetable glycerin just adds such a soft touch, shame it tends to ruin packaging.
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The airless pumps are so expensive so I bought cheap ones on amazon. They have a decent rating but not as good as the ones that are high cost. They are double the cost of my jars but with the eco cert preservative, I have to use an airless pump so people don’t die lol.
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It didn’t mix so it floated and I didn’t think to heat since it has sodium hyaluronate that needs to be in the cold to mix quicker. That’s why a 100% water soluable preservative is just easier.
Yeah I put a lot of glycerin, when mixed with hyaluronic, it is not sticky. You have to apply when skin is moist and use a pea size amount and it will mimic baby skin perfectly. A lot of people don’t realize healthy baby skin is slightly sticky due to the mix of naturally occuring NMF like squalane, glycerin, urea, etc….dry or unhealthy skin doesn’t have any tackiness to it at all. Seaweed also helps because its film forming but smells so bad and can settle that its hard to market. One of the best ingredients you can use but people want pretty over effective. But it hasn’t been extensively studied for eczema so I m not currently using it.
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Thank you, I am hoping to get my grant funding come through but it has been 1 year since I applied for services.
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Thank you!
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Thank you so much!
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Yes, I’ve switched to an airless pump to guard against that. I use PE 9010 for my emulsions but as you can imagine it was a huge failure in a completely water based formula. I am also using 60% vegetable glycerin in these products (its not as sticky as you would think), so I am hoping with the packaging, small amount and proper sterilizing, it’ll be safe. I am also going to disclaim that it should be discarded within 90 days of opening even though I don’t yet have the firm numbers in terms of stability. Its mostly for insurance purposes and for overall safety for customers who may not be taking great care of products.
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I am creating a new line of skin and hair care products. But my line would be “simple”, just straight old fashioned apothecary type items like cold cream, hair butter. Nothing complex like what we are seeing with skin care lines like Pacifica, The Ordinary who would be my “benchmark” although they are not mostly similar. Just in terms of cosmos and eco certification as well as some of their gentle products. Cereve would be probably slightly close to my benchmark in terms of ingredients, Pacfica would be a benchmark for overall theme of my products. Right now I have 10 products that I’d like to review. I would mostly like to get a review to look for obvious instability and incompatibility, basically a yes or no. For example, actives in my urea cream were destabilizing the emulsion and I think even a quick glance at the recipe would have been enough for a professional to know that it wasn’t going to be stable…the ph, the preservative etc was pretty obvious, but to a beginer home maker, just eyeballing a recipe wouldn’t be effective. I have to experiment and tweak a recipe far more than a professional. And some of these are years in the making. So essentially, I want to cut the experimental time frame, increase stability and safety….but right now it’s not worth spending another 2-3 years on it if a professional could eyeball a formula and let me know that it would never be stable long term.
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How long do I have to keep the sample. At the moment I do not have a way to organize batch codes, if I wanted to begin that process, can I do so manually? I am not a large seller so I could feasibly just make up numbers and print labels to add to the products.
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Yup I try to keep all of my skin and hair products under 5. When I tested the pH they all reanged from just above 4 to 4.6. I’m not sure about other skin and hair types but the closer to 4 the shiner my hair and clearer my skin is.