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Thank you.  

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I would like to use these extracts in my skin care formulations so I can use fresh plant material grown on my farm. 

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I’m looking specifically for use as a fragrant ingredient. I’m guessing the amount (%) to use is very low. 

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Thank you Mark.  I am trying to make a gel to milk facial cleanser using sucragel and I’d like to give it more texture because the sucragel and oils don’t form a nice gel. I find it sticky and soft. I tried using xanthan gum but the texture really didn’t improve much.  Any ideas? Have you worked with sucragel? 

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I meant to mention it is the powdered form of dragon’s blood that I’m asking about, not the liquid form. 

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Hello and thank you for the replies.  My intention was not to waste anyone’s time and I apologize for giving that impression.  I made a typo in my question (meant to type “form” and not “for”).  All I wanted to know is if dragon’s blood resin extract is gel forming like xanthan gum for instance. And If it is, I was asking how to accomplish making a gel with it. This would be for a cosmetic formulation. Thank you for the reference sheet. I had seen it but it doesn’t offer the information I’m looking for and I will keep searching. 

Linda

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I’ve seen it in some formulas and I wondered why myself.  As a matter of interests I tested it and found that there didn’t seem to be any significant reason to use it. Baking soda is a lot less expensive than white willow bark extract, which I have always used. I know now that there is no reason at all to change.   

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Success!  Thank you everyone, for your input.  I really appreciate it.  The reason I wanted to add it is for the soothing of skin.  I did use it at 2%, dissolved it in hot water and it was very easy to use. The outcome of the lotion was great. 

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I think I found my answer on how to incorporate it into skin care. 

Avena Sativa (Oat) kernel flour:
At the Making Cosmetics website they have this instruction for use: 
“Sprinkle into cold or hot water and mix well. Typical use level 5-30%”

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Wow.  So interesting.  Mark do you know who the reputable sources are? 

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You should at least take some courses to get on the right track and not make expensive mistakes.  Check out Formula Botanica.  There are some excellent courses there and the online school has a good reputation. 

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My guess is that it should come out like a tincture if it is extracted with ethyl alcohol, is that right?  My client said they did some sort of extraction with ethyl alcohol and the end result was a sticky tar like substance. Does that sound right to you? 

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Good info. Thanks.

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I’m using it in a powdered form. Does that make a difference? 

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Thank you.  I really appreciate your response. I know people who are very sensitive to the use of baking soda and am hoping to formulate a deodorant without it. Perhaps closer to the top end of 20% would work well.  I’ll give it a try. 

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Perry, thank you. I appreciate your input.

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So many manufacturers are claiming that magnesium kills odor causing bacteria. Is that possible?

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In a deodorant, to kill bacteria.