[leifh]

ketchito said:

@leifh Starches in solid bars mainly act as binder, giving the bar a better structure. As a side effec, some starches (modified) can interact with surfactants resulting in milder systems and helping stabilize the foam as well.

So one would need a modified starch to have any benifit? Corn starch or arrowroot would not give these benifits.

[leifh]

DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ said:

Starches can also discolor depending upon the SAA used example particularly SCI maltodextrin is a safer binder alternative

Discolor hair you mean?

[leifh]

Thank you for your answer! I have natrasil at home so I will try adding it and reducing the ingredients you listed.

[leifh]

Thank you for commenting Paprik but I don’t think you read my post carefully enough. Using 40-50% btms80 would be like using 80-100% btms50. The solution is not to up the btms80 that also bring problems with to much IPA. The bars turn out real weird on the surface. I would describe the feeling my hair had as dry. I am open to using not only Behenyl but also a second non-palm derived solid that is not btms80 or behenyl but I have tried stearic and hydrogenated rapeseed oil and both of those sort of made my hair feel dry and waxy.

[leifh]

Should I up the amount of “silicone replacement” liquids. Is there a point of adding a blend of these like PCA Glyceyl Oleate, Isoamyl laurate and castor oil esters along with the broccoli and coco-caprylate or should i stick to one or two of these.

Add more humectants? Pentylene glycol and/or natural betaine.