[Kirk]

In my experience of using these gums for shampoo, these two gums are dispersed first (guar gum then xanthan gum) in the hot water phase (75 - 80 deg C) after adding the chelating agent (I use phytic acid btw). then after that, the surfactants are added. And these 2 gums work nicely together as far as I know.

[Kirk]

@Belassi Perhaps you can try Ammoniated Glycyrrhizin by Mafco Worldwide Corporation. Try this link for more info.

[Kirk]

Hi @braveheart. If you still want to pursue your sulfate free formula, you can try thickening your formula using guar gum-xanthan gum system. 0.5% guar to 0.30% xanthan will do.

[Kirk]

@braveheart Inositol is the poly-alcohol form of cyclohexane, with six -OH groups around the cyclohexane core. On the other hand, phytic acid also has the cyclohexane core like inositol, but instead of -OH groups attached to it, dihydrogen phosphate (-H2PO4) groups are attached to it. These dihydrogen phosphate groups gives phytic acid its chelating property.And yes, inositol and phytic acid are both biodegradable.

[Kirk]

You can also try Tsuno Rice Chemical’s Phytic Acid (IP6).

[Kirk]

I have tried using it in a toner and face wash. At the recommended dosage, it really does deliver the claims that the product brochure has stated.

[Kirk]

Hi! I’m Kirk from the Philippines.

I am a newbie in the cosmetic industry. I am presently working as a formulator in a company that specializes in selling natural cosmetics. 

Thanks Perry for accepting my application in this forum.