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  • Kbose

    Member
    January 3, 2021 at 11:04 pm in reply to: Hair Porosity & protein sensetivity

    Sorry I’m late to the party… 
    I am a hairstylist… and I have never (until now) heard of protein sensitive hair.
    I can’t speak for every stylist, just myself. 

    I believe it is my job (and every stylists’ job) to really know their brand of hair care.  It is my job to know what is in the bottles that I sell, what it does, & how it can help.  I have found especially for anyone who receives chemical services that you need more than one type of shampoo & conditioner.  The majority of my clients alternate between 2 shampoos & conditioners within the same brand.  For a client who is blonde due to bleaching services I will recommend a shampoo & conditioner containing some protein for damaged hair & a shampoo conditioner that is hydrating.  They will alternate between the 2 sets: 1 day use one set next wash day use the other. Or alternating using the hydrating set 2x before using the protein set. 

    Yes, the majority of hair care brands out there try to brain wash us stylists into thinking whatever they are selling is the best & isn’t full of crap.  I think it is awful. 

    Porosity is something I as a stylist (and I’d say most stylists) use to describe hair damage. Porosity affects chemical services & end results of said chemical services.  Trust me, you can completely destroy the cuticle of hair (once that is done there is no treatment to repair.  that has got to grow out.) You can damage the cuticle enough to where it can’t hold moisture.  I dont tell clients “You have level 4 grade hair porosity. You need a shampoo that treats level 4.” 

    No. I say “Your hair is severely damaged.  If we proceed to do highlights, you will not have hair on your head.  It will break. We need to do some treatments for a few months to even a year before even considering highlights. ” 

    You can use too much protein & dry the hair out. The majority of hair care brands do not have enough protein in their products to cause the hair to dry out. As stated before damaged hair will never be recovered to the full term. But you don’t describe the hair as protein high hair.  Until I stumbled upon this post I had never even heard of this.  

    Are people describing their hair as high protein? Are they looking for a high protein shampoo?  Are they describing their hair has various grades of porosity?  If so, why?   Are they describing their hair as high protein to avoid buying a protein hair care product?  It sounds like someone out there is using a system we use in the hair world to market their line.  

    I so wish that cosmetic scientists & hair stylists came together more.  I wish the education that came from hair care brands came from the scientists who made it.  So often we are “educated” with a horse & pony show. “It smells great & is good for fine hair!” That’s nice. I dont care though. Why is it good for fine hair?  What ingredients make it better for fine hair than another brand’s fine hair shampoos?  Also, getting educated by the people who make products will help us behind the chair shut down whatever nonsense is happening on the internet.  Most of the time the reps for brands are 1) not hair stylists & never have been. 2) Represent more than 50 brands.  The educators of the brands are educated by the brands & only know about ingredients what the brands want them to know. 

    If there was a course online that had education for stylists on ingredients in shampoos & why those ingredients are needed & how they are sourced; same for conditioners & masks; the surfactants; pH of shampoos & conditioners; etc would be great! 

    There are a lot of stylists out there that would love to be educated on the chemistry side of things to help us behind the chair & to set our clients on the right track.  

    If you made it to the end of this long comment, thank you.  I hope I made a little sense.  

  • Kbose

    Member
    March 30, 2016 at 8:15 pm in reply to: Disulfide Bond restructuring product - Olaplex

    I’m a hairstylist. I only use this product in my bleach. I’m seeing less damage, but it’s not what others are swearing by. It does take longer to process. The more you mix in, the longer it takes. Then you have the 2nd part of it that you apply and let sit for however long you wish. The directions are less than helpful. We felt that we had to play around with it and figure out what works for us. I felt like they made it, tested it, but didn’t really set a lot of boundaries, or directions or anything for us stylists. It was more of a “Here’s this. It’s new. Nothing else like it. Mix it in and see great results.” but no other information for a few months. Others are perming bleached hair with Olaplex, and I don’t have enough faith in the product to do such a thing. The more I mix in my bleach the better the results (longer the process).  You can do stand alone treatments, and I have found that you have to use more to really see results. The say on the instructions to use a lot of the #2 Bond Perfector and the Take Home product is a small bottle and the instructions are not very clear, and state to use a lot as well. A lot of hair stylists are using it, and still over processing and really damaging hair.  It’s suppose to allow us to push the envelope a little bit more. I have used it in a demi color, and hated it. I’m not 100% for it or against it. I don’t think it does as well as what everyone is saying. And I think a lot of the good results we are seeing isn’t just Olaplex, as much as it is the treatments they are using during the whole process. Olaplex, protein treatments, hydrating masks, etc.

  • Kbose

    Member
    March 9, 2016 at 3:37 pm in reply to: Sulfates in Hair Products

    Thank you for that link! I personally like to shampoo color out with a more acidic shampoo.

  • Kbose

    Member
    March 11, 2024 at 12:22 pm in reply to: Creating a hair care line

    Thank you for answering my questions & your experience! I really appreciate it. The database link you provided has 1000x more results than the hours I spent Googling. I really appreciate that! So, it sounds like I need to have a solid marketing plan, business plan, & budget before contacting a company.

    Thank you so much for educating me. I really appreciate it!

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