[Katrin2204]

@ngarayeva001 actually, sorry
just re-read your message where you say 300-500rpm Thank you!

[Katrin2204]

@ngarayeva001 hi!
I purchased the stirrer and for some reasons it separates my emulsions not allowing them to even emulsify (I am doing on a very little speed). I tried the same formula stirring manually and it came out just fine. What speed do you usually use?

[Katrin2204]

@ngarayeva001 many-many thanks for the links! So far I have removed cyclomethicone  and it seems to not separate, but I’ll still play with it! Thank you for your recommendations and links

[Katrin2204]

ngarayeva001 said:

Water in oil.. the pain of my life… W/O is a very special type of animal.

This is how I feel about them! And it was supposed to be so easy!
I managed to get one that that did not separate and my skin LOVED IT!

But it was too thick so really hard to use

Thank you so much for such a detailed response!
I will try all of that! Looks like I have months of attempts ahead until I make something stable lol

I don’t have a stirrer, but I am pretty sure I can figure something out, but I honestly didn’t think it has to be entered by drops! Maybe that’s the reason too.

ngarayeva001 said:

4) You need at least two emulsifiers (better different types). I know several combinations that work, but I got them from Australia and Italy. If you are willing to pay for shipping from I will give you the names (but it might be pricy). Try to combine Polyglyceryl Oleate with cetyl diglyceryl tris(trimethylsiloxy)silylethyl dimethicone.

Could you please share INCI of them? I’ll try to find something in USA

And again, thank you so much! Will update later with my results.
Very much appreciated  o:)

[Katrin2204]

bil7 said:

Dnt exactly know about your material
But you can add peg 75 will work so or croda e wax or polawax works so far and about gms se is so comodegenic so i prefer to use gms as of croda .
And reduce water ay 30 to 40 percent 
Increase fatty acids at 15 percent and charged oil phase at 30 percent and other additives upto 100 as your formulations needed so desired appearance. 

Thank you!
I have tried bee’s wax as well, forgot to mention, but not with Polawax as I’d like to avoid Polysorbate in cream. But can try that as well. I will try reducing water and adding the oil phase, I have noticed that the more oils, the more liquid emulsion turns out. But will for sure try all your suggestions! Yay! Thank you so much for your response