[JohnFrancis]

the mica won’t be added. I forgot to remove it from the list that I copied over.

Thanks, I’ll take a look at that thread.

[JohnFrancis]

Thanks Belassi.

@MakingSkincare

Thanks for the comment. Here’s the full list:

**Lauryl glucoside

**Distilled water 

 **Coconut scent 

**Aloe 

**Glucamate LT

**White mica powder 

**Covi-ox T-50

**Optiphen ND

**Citric Acid USP

**Aevena Oat Oil 

[JohnFrancis]

I have two more quick questions for anybody who is willing to answer.

1) What’s the reason for not adding a coconut oil? When I have made soap with Lye I added coconut oil. Why shouldn’t I use it for a no soap wash?

2) Is there any benefit to using hydrolyzed plant protein? I’ve seen this used in different cosmetics 

[JohnFrancis]

Makes perfect sense. Thank you!

[JohnFrancis]

Would you mind explaining what Hot Process means? or pointing me to a place where I can read about it?

[JohnFrancis]

Thanks Belassi,

I guess that I was assuming that they were using straight “coconut oil” out of the jar based on the customer rep’s response.

Thanks for the point about the Xanthan gum. It did seem to have a negative impact in one of my tests. I’ll look into the Glucamate VLT.

[JohnFrancis]

Mica Powder … I suspect your dog could care less if the Shampoo is white, so why bother.  Sugar … not a good idea.

haha very good point about the color!

Thanks for the response. That sounds easy enough. 

But why take out the Coconut Oil? Most soap free dog shampoos that I have seen use coconut oil. 

For example, here’s one that I’m sort of looking to model:

http://tropiclean.com/product/oatmeal-tea-tree-medicated-dog-shampoo/

Purified water, mild coconut cleanser, avena sativa oatmeal, natural salicylic acid, organic blend of (chamomile extract, aloe extract, pomegranate extract, kiwi extract, yucca extract, papaya extract), hydrolyzed plant protein, fragrance, vitamin E, tea tree.

I wasn’t sure what “mild coconut cleanser” means so I contacted them.

Of course, their formula is “proprietary” but they did respond with the following - which includes coconut oil. 

proprietary but it contains lauryl glucoside and is a very gentle cleanser made from coconut oil (lauryl) and sugar (glucose).