HamBone99
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I just listened to a Beauty Brains podcast that Valerie talk about her favorite Quats. Episode 321 at about 30 min.
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PhilGeis said:as Perry said - you’ll very prob not get bothered.
Why are you adding the stuff - what is your “intent”? “Cosmeceutical” has no regulatory meaning - and not much in reality.Well, Chinese Traditional Medicine uses menthol to increase perfusion of the skin and increase the effect of other herbs like thuja orientalis.(Yes, I understand that preservation of herbs is an issue. I’d still like to use small amounts of hydrosols and extracts with a preservative and tocopherol.) I hope for the caffeine to penetrate the scalp and increase circulation.
But it’s not absolutely necessary. I would remove it from the formula if using it reclassified the shampoo as a drug.It may have a small effect but consistent use and a topical serum combined may have an effect. Some people don’t want to use drugs.
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Ah, Perry! You’re a celebrity! I recently started listening to your podcast.
So if I make no claims about caffeine or menthol increasing circulation when I’m selling my shampoo at the farmer’s market I should be ok?
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ProfessorHerbProfessorHerb said:
It takes a lot of experimenting to come up with a formula like the one you describe. Usually, you wouldn’t want to rinse off magnesium so it adds a big challenge. However, salts have always been used in hair products so it’s not impossible. The biggest formulation challenge is to dissolve the magnesium which requires water. The shampoo bar I make isn’t anhydrous and neither are a lot of bars. Maybe you can experiment with aloe water, add magensium and then formualte the bar? Or if you use a liquid surfactnat you might be able to add magnesium and see if it dissolves.Professor Herb, thank you!!! I will try dissolving it at a rate of 10% in my cocomidopropyl betaine!
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Thank you Syl.
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I know you guys don’t think it will do anything but could I use magnesium citrate?
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PhilGeis said:Appreciate your intent but, in shampoo context, think you reaching for a story more than clinical endpoint. Even if effective, you’re unlikely to get enough from a shampoo.
Mg ascorbyl phosphate applied directly at % levels has some animal data supporting hair growth..I appreciate your advice! I think every little bit counts. I’m also working on a non-greasy hair serum based on water and glycerin with guar gum as a thickener. What about magnesium acetate?
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Also, even if magnesium aluminum silicate is too large to be absorbed by the skin, could it dissolve calcium deposits blocking hair follicles?
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Thanks in advance for your time!