[fletland]

excellent
chemico     and    quimica boss    are good suppliers in guadalajara

[fletland]

About carbopol aqua,  the only shampoo I used it , is in SHAMPOO MATIZADOR(SILVER SHAMPOO) Is the only way to keep the dye in the shampoo.  you must take a glance on ASHLAND productos it has a very interesting actives to conditioning , for example Policuaternium 55.

[fletland]

i appreciate your help, Belassi,  i m going to develope all this changes and then post it.  have a nice day

[fletland]

thanks a lot,  yes the dimethicone impact my foam, but its not severe,  dimethicone help me, against the ALS detergent power.
i will eliminate decyl glocuside i think is allergic.
i will decrease the level of tween 20, my fragance afected my viscosity tahts the reason for use it.
yes cocoamide MEA is correct, im going to try at 1.3 % of it.

i was thinking reduce the level of ALS at 14%.  and looking for lamesoft in guadalajara supplier.    

thanks again

[fletland]

about to your post,  i had three years i dont work with pearl aditives, most of my shampoos are clear and only one is creammy white,  i used an opacificant

[fletland]

sorry PH is 6 and color is honey

[fletland]

Hi Belassi i decided no work with plantaren apb anymore, its about cost. a live in a small city and bring it from Mexico city increase my cost,  im going to work with only ALS , CAPB, DECYL GLUCOSIDE and MEA.  i start with my samples,
ALS          16%
CAPB          8%
DECYL        3%
MEA            1.5%
PQ 7           1.5%
PQ 10            .3%
PEG 12  DIMETICONE        3%
KATHON CG       .15 %

CITRIC ACID        1.7 GRAMS PER KILOGRAM

FRAGANCE        .4
TWEEN 20         .8
WATER              63%

THE VISCOSITY IS OK , GOOD SENSORIAL, SHINE,   BUT   THE HAIR GOES DRY IN LESS THAN A HOUR, AND SOMETIMES THIS SHAMPOO (IRRITATES SKIN HEAD) TO SOME PEOPLE.

in your past test, how do you treat this problems

 

[fletland]

Belassi, i dont know why you hate carbopol aqua, this product solve some of the problems you mentioned above,   ok lets do it to your way,    try with this:
1.- citric acid needs to be inserted in water at the beggining of the proces
2.- identified what sustance decreased viscosity, and when you add this one to your batch joined with capb,  you will note it dont break shampoo chain viscosity
3.- peg 12 dimethicone will give you an awesome conditioning and end viscosity

i hope this is good for you

[fletland]

bELASSI THE ANSWER TO YOUR PROBLEMS IS NAMED  CARBOPOL AQUA 1

[fletland]

the error in this formula is that pq7 is not compatible with ethanol

[fletland]

the formula is ok, only add a emulsifier to the oil phase, al least 3 %,  and you will get a pretty milky fase above,  and the water fase is clear,    the filling is not a problem , beacause this formula in the first separation times it takes a lot o time,  so you only have to stirr while you fill

[fletland]

belassi in Mexico sells behentrimonium chloride, it cost almost 3 times more than cetrimonium

[fletland]

Kalibean, there are many books about all cosmetics areas,  other option is your supplier, but the most important is the practice, the known of ingredients or actives.