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should I increase PEG-40 and PEG-12 both ? @ketchito

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@Camel
Thanks for your detailed answer. It was so useful and I have one more question too… Do you know any thickener for this serum. This formula has very low viscosity 

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@WarrenChemist thanks for giving me some alternatives 

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Hi, hope you’re fine @ketchito 
I’m having a hard time finding some silicone alternatives, frankly. 

What % do you think isopropyl myristate should be reduced to? and If you have any other suggestions that meet the condition, please let me know  

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First of all, thank you for replying. What esters would you recommend? @Camel

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+++ and why does Amodimethicone causes unclarity but Dimethicone does not ? @ketchito Thank you 

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I used PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate as a thickener in this formulation. exact pH=5,5-6.0 @ketchito

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which component is amodimethicone incompatible with ? I removed the amodimethicone mixture and added the following mixture instead:
Propoxytetramethyl Piperdinyl Dimethicone (and) Cetrimonium Chloride (and) Trideceth-6 (and) C11-C15 Pareth-7
and I removed the sulfosuccinate. but I couldn’t get the desired effect this way. Is there a way to make it transparent like the first version ı given ? @Abdullah

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@ketchito
What do you think the ideal amount of HEC should be? And should I keep the rpm low to avoid bubbles?

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Obsevation:
1. Aqua + Hydroxyethyl Cellulose (%2) + TEA (Opaque white, fairly solid)
2. Monoprpylene Glycol (4,5) + Alcohol (%20) (transparet but bullry) 

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@Paprik
@ketchito
thanks for your help.. Mixing high level and adjusting to neutralise has worked but the image i get is blurry even though it was mixed for 2 hours. What do you think?

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Thank you for your advices. Increasing pH realy works with cold water, I go with 1000 rpm for a hour, nevertheless I couldn’t completely dissolve HEC. If you have any other solutions I would be so glad…

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Ah thanks @ngarayeva001

How many % should I use polyquertenium-10 ?

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Hi @Benz3ne

Active percentages of my raw materials are as follows:

SLES 70%
Cocoamidopropyl Betain 35%

amount of salt(the maximum usage)=2%
I used 1% essence and 1% aloe vera extract also.

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@EVchem
hi 

I want the product to be thicker. The turning point of the salt curve gives the maximum amount of salt I will use. and this ratio is not enough for thickening. I can’t add more, the reaction is reversed.

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@chemistry8303

Thanks for your suggestion. I looked at the chemical, but it is the hot process raw material

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@Belassi

thanks for your comment. I sent some of my shower gel to my essential oil company and they worked again for me. Viscosity isn’t bad right now, but I can’t be sure without stabilizing.

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@Belassi

Should I replace c12-13 alkyl lactat with cocamide DEA? Or would you have any other suggestions?

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@ketchito
thank you very much. ı mixed coco glucoside with essence and add it end of the process. ı solved the blur problem. 
but the viscosity is too low with 1% shower essences. ı can not increases the salt amount. 
ı want the formula stay same but ı need to increases the viscosity

I have very little time left to the production date of the product

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may ı change surfactant groups? or percentages? is it works? 
when ı use opacifier and high level of essence (%1-2%), the viscosity decreaes. ı need to solve the big problem

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@ketchito thank you 

I tried lamesoft. but it did not dissolve as I added 0.5% to the shower gel base afterwards.

Do you think it works if I dissolve it with a little bit of formula water and add surfactants later?

I added 1% essence but the viscosity is broken again. It was worked out in harmony with Essence shower gel. I can’t find what to do.

any suggestions?

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Thank you very much for your suggestion, but 

the firm does not want pearl appearence. should only be opaque color ::smile:

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@ketchito

Biraz araştırma yaptım. ALKAMULS® 504 / V (etilen glikol distearat) buldum. ancak bu bileşen aynı zamanda sedef görüntüsü verir.

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@ketchito    Dediğiniz gibi deneyimi opaklaştırıcı kullanmadan yaptım ve viskozitem gayet iyiydi. 
Bu opaklaştırıcının ticari adını önerebilir misiniz?

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thanks to your answer Paprik. I read that it can be dissolved with 50% alcohol (and yes, with a quick search 🙂 )

http://nguyenbachemical.com/file/SodiumHyaluronate.pdf

I’m lookin’ for some suggestions about different type of HA (like MW) or HA structural properties which is I don’t know.