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  • Fekher

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    September 19, 2018 at 9:04 am in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    appriciate your help @Gunther

  • Fekher

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    September 19, 2018 at 9:02 am in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    @ngarayeva001 @Microformulation actually i have engineer diplome so stupidity that thinking an engineer is stupid , then from many comments i saw even for others it is clear how much impolite you are always blaming and seeing yourself better and superior then others, so that is worst then stupidity .

  • Fekher

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    September 18, 2018 at 3:45 pm in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    @Belassi Carbomer is just bubble hell??? what that means , actually for shampoo theire are a lot of Lol contains Carbomer and TEA . 
    About ceteareth 25 me alsoo never seen in shampoo Lol, but engineer should be creative and creativity needs innovation and something never seen .However ceteareth 25 is no ionic tensioacatif like MEA , DEA , TEA so if we return to how we make shampoo is not strange to find non ionic tensioactif .
    Also Hair wax prove that it can be conditioner hair i just tried washing my hair after making my hair wax and the resultat was amaizing cleaning and lovely smooth effect.

  • Fekher

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    September 18, 2018 at 2:36 pm in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    @Gunther @belassi @Chemist77 @Perry i make some research and i find that salicylic acid can be a conditioner also so i will try some combinaisons wich contain salicylic acid , ceteareth 25 , carbomer , NaCl and basic ingredients of shampoo any suggests?

  • Fekher

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    September 18, 2018 at 2:10 pm in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    @Belassi @Chemist77 @Perry @Gunther and others, What about using ceteareth 25 as a thickner and conditioner  for shampoo. i make some research about it and i will try but i wanna some advice before starting.

  • Fekher

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    September 17, 2018 at 4:39 pm in reply to: Advise me on my shampoo formulation

    You are welcome @sebina

  • Fekher

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    September 17, 2018 at 1:04 pm in reply to: what to use as a thickner for clear shower gel.

    @ngarayeva001 my belive is in mosque not church and our belive must be effected always , then your way of discussing is not funny . for the book name  is written hhh “Nitrosamines”

  • Fekher

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    September 17, 2018 at 12:31 pm in reply to: Advise me on my shampoo formulation

    @Sebina actually i never use DEA in my products cause i see it as dangerous ingredient . About betaine i tried doing shampoo without it but product did not work for elactrostatic effect means you will not feel comfort with using only SLES ,all what i said  is about my own experience.

  • Fekher

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    September 17, 2018 at 12:16 pm in reply to: what to use as a thickner for clear shower gel.

    @ngarayeva001 yes book is proof and reference however website is not that what i learnt in engineer cycle, i belive in that idea i write it with my argument then readers have mind and will decide. 

  • Fekher

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    September 17, 2018 at 11:27 am in reply to: what to use as a thickner for clear shower gel.

    @ngarayeva001  sure i will argue what you make is not a reference “website” evry one can write what he wants however this is page from book you can translate it to english and know that DEA is potentiel cancer cause with presence of nitric acid .

  • Fekher

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    September 17, 2018 at 5:08 am in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    @Belassi free from added Nacl meant.

  • Fekher

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    September 16, 2018 at 10:00 pm in reply to: Thickening my liquid dish wash soap and retaining transparency

    @Chirag actually even with concentrate LABSA you can not have good viscosity however adding more SLS can be solution with adding Nacl also.

  • Fekher

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    September 16, 2018 at 9:53 pm in reply to: what to use as a thickner for clear shower gel.

    Actually DEA is unhealthy ingredient wich classed in cancerogen ingredients so never use it.

  • Fekher

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    September 16, 2018 at 9:04 pm in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    I tried to make shampoo free of NaCl , i used Carbomer , SLS, CAPB and Salicylic Acid  . when Salicylic acid added the viscosity decrease too much  .
    Actually the product has a good foam also the plus of Salicylic acid was clear with making smooth effect but the problem was viscosity so i think just i need to adjust ph to  have  a good viscosity so i did it with TEA but the bad surprise was even with neutralizing ph the viscosity stay too low.

  • Fekher

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    September 16, 2018 at 8:46 pm in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    @Belassi very interesting what you said

  • Fekher

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    September 16, 2018 at 6:42 pm in reply to: dish wash liquid concentrate

    Yes @Gunther i made also a dish wash liquid with only SLS and neutralised Labsa and the quality is too near with product wich contains CAPB . appriciate your reaction 

  • Fekher

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    September 15, 2018 at 10:40 pm in reply to: dish wash liquid concentrate

    @Avirock actually i did the experience with Labsa 10%, NaOh 1,2 % without CDEA even with using different quntity of slat it dosen’t lead to good viscosity it stays too near to water viscosity even i see that with using perfume the bad smell of Labsa at that level 10% still exist and finally with that formula some collant effect found and it is bad thing.
    So as conclusion making dish wash liquid with only LABSA and NaOh is according to my experience is very bad idea.
    I did some correction for my formula by reducing LABSA % by diluating, adding SLS and CAPB so i obtained acceptable product with good foam, acceptable odor and not  very low viscosity.

  • Fekher

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    September 15, 2018 at 10:19 pm in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    soo helpfull @Gunther  actually foam and viscosity are good however just  using it for meduim period dry hear and i am sure that high quantity of NaCl is one from important cause of that .
     Thanks @Belassi for your answer.

  • Fekher

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    September 15, 2018 at 6:17 am in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    @Chemist77 soo clear appriciate your help.

  • Fekher

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    September 15, 2018 at 4:41 am in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    Thanks @Belassi wich is the best Amonnuim slat for shampoo according to your expertise witch i trust ?
    Thanks @Chemist77 so for conditioning and also increasing viscosity without NaCl will neutralized carbomer do well espacially for conditioning?

  • Fekher

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    September 15, 2018 at 4:31 am in reply to: Pomade - what can make it peak up

    @donburgs you are welcome.

  • Fekher

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    September 14, 2018 at 10:42 pm in reply to: thickner for serum which does not give stickyness

    actually i use TEA and it is good for litel quantity must be lower then 5% so if we take it as neutralizer %TEA = %Carbomer* 1,5 i did try Naoh and it make residu so i eliminate it from my choice about AMP may it can be in residu better then TEA according to some reaserch i did but still searching for AMP to be sure from that reasearch by doing experience so for AMP i had not experiences .
    Actually for viscosty it depend on neutralizer , ph , % Carbomer , and type of carbomer i have idea about carbomer 996 but not for edt 2020 .
    just make correct neutralisation then try to reach your optimal viscosity by starting from high viscosity product and decreasing the viscosity by diluating your product until you reach wanted viscosity then calculate the adequat % of carbomer of wanted viscosity i use this method it is too easy and fast .
    Good futre product friend.
    for your question you must reduce % of carbomer not reducing quantity of neutralizer , actually both will decrease the viscosity but if you just make bad neutralization with less needed neutralizer you will have high acid product wich can be harmfull.

  • Fekher

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    September 14, 2018 at 10:27 pm in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    Thanks @dharmaraj

  • Fekher

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    September 14, 2018 at 10:24 pm in reply to: what improvement you suggest for that shampoo

    thanks @Perry yes i want also decrease slat quantity about ratio is their any refrence or just personnel choice.
    For olive oil it is litel quantity so it did not effect to foam.

  • Fekher

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    September 14, 2018 at 9:02 pm in reply to: thickner for serum which does not give stickyness

    @dharmaraj neutralized Carbomer may can be solution.

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