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@nicotiro from best way to improve your conditionner add polyquaterniums they are too effective for that job you just need to choose best ones .
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@Perry @Chemist77 @Gunther did someone try to make gel with hydroxyethylcellulose?
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@mehrzadkia may you need better quality of salicylic acid , ” smaller granulation powder”
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@dharmaraj take a look for cellulose gum like HEC , HMEC , HPC i think that they are suitable for your needs.
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@ngarayeva001 actually i’am not talking about solvent i meant it when i said solublizer , solublizer is ingredient used to dissove other ingredient which is not soluble or has bad solubility in solvent i wish that difference between solublizer and solvent is clear also solvent has important % in Lol however solubilizer has lower % . “Almost problem of transperency return to bad solubility wich means our solvent is not good enough to dissove desired ingredient where the need of solubilizers”.
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did someone use hydroxyethylcellulose for making hair gel ? and can it gives better hair gel then carbomer one ?
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@AmitKaria not as much easy as you think almost ingredients can have solublizers i gave you a start for probable solution of your problem if you want you can make research and may you solve it unless you are free.
@ngarayeva001 something like that Peg 40 , polysorbates are solublizers for oils in aquatic solution so here is not the same we must know what are the type of aloe vera’s compositions ” i guess Aminic acids and sels” and what are the adequat solubilzers of aloe vera’s compositions in water … wish that is clear. -
@ngarayeva001 @AmitKaria Actually what i see it is not problem of electrolyte resistance of ultrez because as it is clear that the obtained gel is viscous , the problem of transperency according to me can be solved by Aloe vera’s solubilizer that what i see and may we should make research about it ” as first impression i think aboul ethanol but to be more correct must know the Aloe vera ingredients and what can be theire adequat solublizers.
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@Chemist77 really intresting job and from my research even AMP will effect for flaking effect and for that effect it gives better resultats compairing to other neutralizers (TEA , NaOh, KOh…).
Actually from researching i find out that there are a lot of fixatives hair agents other then pvp and most attractive ones for me are some polyquaternuim so have you an idea or experiences about polyquaternuim hair fixatives and i wanna know theire stability with carbomer ? i did some research about that and i find that may some of polyquaternuim are stable with carbomer … -
@Dirtnap1 actually that type of product is really great , thanks for informing me by the new fixative for me “G-100PR polymer ” i will make some reseaech about it then see if i can make some experiences using it.
@Perry by searching such product in market i find this
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@Gunther thanks for your interesting ideas , i have idea about BTMS however i will make research about CETAC.
@Chemist i already make a hair gel-cream using oil at 10% level and i used also pvp and neutrelized carbomer so the professionels said to me that the fixation effect is good however i did not concentrate for smoothing effect , so do you think that including oil will decrease the solidification hair effect according to your experiences? -
@Perry actually i made a lot of hair products : butter , gel , wax , gel wax and about pvp all theire types when hair drying give also solid hair “not smooth one” however i want have smooth effect in addition to fixation effect.
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@chemistgr1 For soap you can use TEA to have lower ph compairing to KOh and NaOh you can also increase to degree of greasing to have softer soap but increasing greasing will make liquid soap opaque , about foam you just need to use the adequat oils to give better foam no needs to have any other add.
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@BeardlyGentlemen actually i have no idea about them make your own research to know wich is better.
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@BeardlyGentlemen actually i use Cathon-CG at 0,1 % if you can not find it try to find Acnibio at 0,3 % it is blend of parabens and phenoxyethanol.
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you are welcome @dharmaraj
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@BeardlyGentlemen actually peg 8 and peg400 are clearly different , then it will be better and easier to work for your formula just try what i told you i guess you will have better resultats.
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@Gunther actually my poade dosen’t need really defoamer cause it has very low foam , just to have an idea about defoamer i asked. Also i’am against using alcohol generally but in low dose “as defoamer level i guess ” it will be great cause alcohol has antibacterien effect and did not has important drying effect.
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you are welcome @ngarayeva001
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@Chemist77 thanks for your interesting reply.
@jeremien that is the answer i need to know , have an idea about level of use?
@Perry i appriciate your reply.
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@ngarayeva001 i already use zinc oxide it gives whitennig effect however it also give drying effect and i don’t think so you want last effect for you product.
I used corn stratch for wittening effect and i’am satified by it you can try it if you want. -
@ngarayeva001 i agree that silicone such dimethicone will be better solution , however i have a problem of access so i did not make as a choice .
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@Kingstone it is hair pomade about details just ceteareth 25 in formulation can make bubbles so no need saying other ingredients.
@Chemist77 yes it is pomade , actually my formulation is good however i want to know as i asked wich is the best defoamer between isopropanol and ethanol and theire level of use as defoamer . -
@ferrysetiawan about your formula i can see that the % of perfume 3 is too high so i sugguest to decrease it to 0,5 % , then you will not need to use tow solublizers you just need to use one polysorbate 20 or peg 40 at % equal at 2. the % of pvp should be higher for better fixation, for ceteareth 25 may you need to increase the % for better viscosity.
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Thanks @Chemist77