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@ngarayeva001 you meant you just use carbomer or using emulsifiers by any special effort ☺?
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@Skinjunkey i guess for w/o lecithin provide adequat hlb i think that the level of use should be higher 8% or more , as it has low hlb it must be in oil phase adequat temperature with adequat mixing will almost give better resultats .(should know that % given is % of emulsifier so i guess that liquid lecithin is not pure so you should know the concentration to know the right % of use)
@coastallabs i think that gum can help for increasing viscosity. -
@ngarayeva001 actually working on hair cream i find that formulation intersting so before developping work i want to understand formulation in this one just dimethicone i’am not sure how it is stabilised i have idea that Dimethicone is soluble in many ester that’s why my doubts go for myristyl mysristarate . anyway thanks for your reply you are always helpful ☺.
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@Gunther actually it can be a good solution but i want to understand such formulation i guess that it works cause i found it in cosmetic formulation book and such formulation will be better for cost’s side.
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@David08848 actually yes texture is creamy and i guess that is good for shaving cream.
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@David08848 i make formulation with 7% NaOh and 93% Koh and it gives lovely texture.
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@Perry
for that formulation
Petrolatum: 40%
Paraffin liquid : 40%
Beewax: 20 %
what is the minimum level of castor oil seems good and needed to give high shine for hair? -
Thanks @perry actually i was not sure about it but i trust on you.
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@chemist77 i take a look for the reference actually it is carbomer 934.
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@Dirtnap1 actually it is just dimethicone.
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@Chemist77 do you think that carbomer can alone stabilise 2% of dimethicone ?
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@ngarayeva001 actually yes the emulsifiers in that product are glyceryl stearate and triethanolstearate ( reaction of triethanolamine with stearic acid , carbomer needs just 0,75 % of TEA or less) even the book says that it is o/w emulsion so glyceryl stearate can not alone provide o/w emulsion )
so TEA is used as emulsifier with stearic acid i make the calculation of required hlb and hlb of emulsifiers and i found two near values . -
@Gunther according to my experience even in low level stearic acid genearally give waxy and flacking effect wich is not the case of fatty alcohol.
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@rodb1958 i have some sucess suspending oxides using vegetable oil , shea butter , beewax if you are interested to try it.
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Thanks a lot @Perry actually i use ingredients supplied by cosmetic ingredient suppliers ☺.
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@noorahfm you must work for that just to help you LABSA can be good in 2 % .
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hi again friends i want to know if does paraffin oil and Vasline means that they are high refined product cause from research i found that paraffin oil means high refined mineral oil and that vasline means high refined petrolatum . Thanks in advance .
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@amitvedakar waiting your success.
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@noorahfm you need to decrease the level of Labsa and increase the level of SLES.
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@Amitvedakar
for thickness problem may
decreasing level of cetostearyl alcohol and carbomer solve the problem.
For separation and slicky problem i guess it is emulsion’s problem so you should calculate you required hlb then use adequat emulsifiers. -
@esmail adding adequat amount of NaOh will not affect CDEA this order is proposed to know exactly how much you need NaOh without adding LABSA or citric acid .
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@esmail i suggest to add CDEA before Naoh why? because it will be easier to find adequat amount of Naoh so you just make 20% solution of soude and add littel by littel then check ph to reach wanted one.
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try hydroxyethylcellulose HEC @Rencelj
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Intersting link @perry
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@mikethair why do not increasing temperature around 100 degree C for reducing time of saponification ? i already did it in industriel batch with 70 kg of soap and i get good soap ( i think that best part of day is waste of time and money)