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@Neil this prove required hlb of same oil change from w/o to o/w
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@Amira thanks for update actually it is interesting product.
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@Mel55 i think that rose hydrosol will be much better in cool down phase to protect thermosensible actif of it.
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you are welcome @RRR
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Thanks @ngarayeva001 and you have right about that type of emulsion depends on type of emulsifier . About Ester it is new information however i read that required hlb for w/o emulsion is generally lower then 7 so is it possible to make it with esters with higer hlb ( hlb of glyceryl stearate is already lower then 7) ?
Just to be precise hlb i found for ester are only for o/w ( exemple IPM =11.5 ) so i guess if it is possible doing w/ester emulsion required hlb will be different from required hlb ester/w . -
whatever thanks for answer @NeilL
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@RRR guar gum and carbomer are both thickner.
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@Amittal i guess you can just ph must be not basic ( it is better to have ph near to 7 and lower)
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you are welcome @Amira
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@Amira i don’t think that lanolin wax will be more efficace then beewax for your need i have experience with such product , i think that you need to find the adequat amount of beewax .
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@kiwigirl71 make a research for polyquaternuim i guess there a lot for cold process.
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@Amira petrolatum can contain different level of wax so if you want more hold just try to add few amont of beewax .
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@Aziz even lower then 7 can work if level of surfctants is good . For ph higher then 8 it can cause irritation for hands.
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@Oladoo take a look also for sucragel .
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@Mrkhan i think slighty basic will be the best between 7 and 8 .
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@Gunther actually the reaction did not need high pression or longer time and baking soda is stronger then TEA wich is already able to make soap.
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update:
After one day of making baking soda soap you will obtain solid soap near to soduim hydroxyde one however the foam is too low comparing to other type of soaps using same level of oils and same level of super fat . -
@Oladoo you are welcome .
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@Oladoo about supplier i have not idea .
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@Oladoo Almost butter will work however not true that shea butter easily rancid cause as almost butter it is too rich of saturated acid (stearic acid) wich is not easily rancid. Other solution you can use esterified beewax as cerabellina that give creamy product instead waxy one .
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try to add butter and liquid oil @Oladoo you will just need to work on the adequat proportion.
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@em88 why you need to calculate the amount of surfactant?(and actualy it is not difficult to know it just you need to know the amount of free acid) if to know the amount of emulsifier .for beewx the amount used is usually near to normal emulsifier and same even for other soap.
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@ngarayeva001 actually trolamine stearate has in head both positive charge of Amine and negative one of stearate so may we can call it amphoteric molecule and you habe right about we can not use the ordinary hlb formulation to calculate it cause the formulation as you said for no ionic emulsifier so in ionic we talk i think about hld ( hydropbil lipophil difference … i will read more about it)
Then in opposit of you trolamine stearate give better texure did not surprise me cause moving from saturated acid to a soap will get more “creamy textutre”. -
@em88 you have right , however i want to discover potassuim and trolamine beewax can make a good cream. I can make a try and see my problem is to find the hlb of potassium and trolamine beewaxate for borax it is found in bibliography near to 10 ( cause used to emulsify paraffin liquid ) however i can no find any information a bout trolamine and potassuim in bibliography.
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Exactly @Neil it is for emulsion .