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The best, easiest and sure formulation product for Coronavirus i found is 8,25 % hypochlorite Sodium and Qsp Distilled or deionised Water
So the benifits of product is sure product for Coronavirus confirmed by EPA with name ustin’s A-1 Concentrated Bleach 8.25% and it has quite short needed contact time ( 5 minutes) the product can be use for hands with Gloves, for vegetables, plastic, Stainless metals, woods, paper ….
However it has whitening effect for clothes, irritant for body and corossif for no Stainless metal…Professionals your turn to share.
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Hi again professionals, so as alcohol not available in many countries is there any other effective product for hands (without washing means not soap solution when we are outside) for Coronavirus?
I Read a lot about diluted hydrogen peroxide, combination between sodium chloride and hypochlorite sodium, combination between sodium bicarbonate and sodium chloride, combination between sodium carbonate and hypochlorite sodium last one found in Environmental Protection Agency so it is for sure right however the product may have other ingredients.
Your share is duty which can save life of thousands of peoples.
@lmosca @Perry @Pharma @Cafe33 @Agate @ozgirl @chemicalmatt @Gunther -
@erickafalves I guess it is much better to make some reasearch here.
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@Agate sure it helps ????.
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@Padmavathi with that calculation you just calculate grams of pure IPA For 75 ml. For passing from v/v to w/w make some reasearchement it is not as simple as you calculate.
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@Perry has right , never mix Bleach with Vinegar it will produce very toxic gaz Cl2 also there is no evidence that Detol can be effective for Coronavirus @RKVarry so please don’t share fake information especially about health.
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@Agate really interesting view about proper application, thanks for it.
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@Cafe33 World Health Organisation WHO proposed spray alcoholic product so for sure it is the effective product, going to gel may it reduce evaporation however it is difficult to have 75% or 80 % alcoholic gel.
As conclusion as professional we must follow the certified formulation which is spray form and leave anything else.
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@Padmavathi 60 % w/w is far and lower then 75 % v/v .
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Thanks a lot @Pharma for the link soo interesting
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@Pharma thanks for share what do you think about hydrogen peroxide?
I Ask for that cause it not available for me and I want to make real effective coronavirus sanitizer, so I want to know really if formulation will work or not without it.
I readed in link shared by @Perry that hydrogen peroxide is not active in formulation but it used for eliminate contamination.
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@Cafe33 thanks for your interesting share.
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@Vinnyg32 appriciate your share.
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@Cafe33 I guess it is difficult to have stable product as Carbomer is not stable with almost cationic surfactant, may the low level of BZK will lead to stable product.
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Thanks a lot @Perry for your efforts.
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@mshariq84 Masha’Allah Tabraka Allah, all good wishes for you just such I will make you must not make a gel sanitizer, make spray sanitizer with alcohol, glycerin or monopropylen glycol and water it will be soo easy to make : more economic and efficient where you can reach easily 70 % or more of alcohol in your sanitizer.
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@Pharma about desinfection air I guess not with that evidence we can say it works or not because I guess there is no specific study about (air, corona virus, Sodium hypochlorite ) such study will depends many factors such Sodium hypochlorite concentration, time of contact, quantity of solution in Air, way of applying solution in Air…
About Sanitizer spary I agree with you, such as I see it will have many benefits comparing to gel sanitizer even in cost… -
Thanks a lot @Perry very useful link
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I saw LOL for coronavirus which is 25% Sodium chloride and 75% water so can it be effective as sanitizer?
I have other idea which is use just alcohol with MPG or glycerin (which decrease the level of evaporation and make product more gentle ) with such idea we will not obliged to find adequat Carbomer or neutralizer for high alcohol level 70% or more.
So what do you think? @ngarayeva001 @Chemist77 @ozgirl @Cafe33 @Gunther @Perry @Pharma @lmosca -
@lewhitak TEA can just lead to 60 % Alcohol as maximum for alcoholic gel.
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@Pharma actually I make 1:4 (12 degree Sodium hypochlorite solution, water) so the result I guess 2,4%
Whitening effect of Sodium hypochlorite solution did not need time as I guess however I have more then 3 hours Sodium hypochlorite solution at 2,4% and there is no whitening effect in my clothes just may the initial solution is not 12 degree as industrial mentioned it can be…Air disinfection? Where is the problem by spraying solution in Air. -
@Pharma interesting answer thanks for it.
I’am working with Sodium hypochlorite solutions at 2,4% I guess it can be very effective as it is concentrate solution,the idea is using it to desinfect the air and about human for hands we should wear Gloves then apply solution so pH will be not a problem and for rest body we apply solution in clothes (I try it in clothes and it did not cause whitening effect.)
By the way what about Vinegar and lemon juice for killing virus?
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@Perry whatever thanks for your answer.
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@Perry @Gunther @ozgirl is there any scientific study about Corona virus and hypochlorite de sodium solution??
I saw and heard many formulations with hypochlorite de sodium 12 degree :
One says 9 parts water to one part hypochlorite de sodium 12 degree. And other says 4 parts water and one part hypochlorite de sodium 12 degree.
Waiting your interesting answers, and I wish that if it is a real good product for killing corona virus all members know it to protect their self.