[Eruio]

thanks

Fekher said:

@Eruio active surfactant=( % level of use in formulation * active concentration of  surfactant) / 100.
 So if you use 10 % SLS with 70% concentration
surfactant active = (10 * 70) / 100 = (10 * 70 ) /  100 = 7%

thanks

[Eruio]

Fekher said:

@Eruio  you must ask your supplier if the SLES 27% active or 70% .

I look at the specification 
Actual Matter (%) 70. 
Inc name = SLS 

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The one that make me confuse is 
1. From http://www.humblebeeandme/surfactans
Said 29% 
2. From http://www.itsallinmyhands.com
Said how to calculate asm
From the formula using sls is 29% =
 wt x active - - - > if i decide use 100gr - - > 100gr x 0.29 = 29
3. But in one of blog in my country said to calculate the formula is 
(Wt x active %) /1000% (1000gr) =70

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Lets we use same active number
From web = 100 x 0.29 = 29 asm 
From blog = (100 x 29%) / 1000% = 2.9 total active surfactan

Which one the correct formula? 

And i got jurnal formula in bangladesh
The use total surfactan 56gr /1000 gr
If we use callculation from 
1. From Web they use 16.24% but if
2. From blog they use only 1.624% surfactan

[Eruio]

luiscuevasii said:

talking about powder detergent, im ussing:

20% Methyl ether sulphonate
40% pulverized SOAP 
20% Sttp
10% sodium sulphate
0.5% CMC
Rest aditives, fragance, colorants, others.

The foam is very good, but soap tents to make scum and some times MES and SOAP are hard to dissolve,  does the Sodium sulphate in your formula its cappable to abdsorb your liquid labsa-sles-betaine with out making a cake ?

I dont use MES because more expensive than sles and labsa.  The cheapest in here is SLES.  and my target is low price   
I think 20%wt its too much.  
In my formula,  sulfate can absorb liquid labsa and betaine too. The amount labsa i have test is 0.5 - 3%wt For CAPB is 0.5-1%wt. if i rise quantity of labsa and capb the powder will wet, if i use sttp they can make the wet powder become dry,  but it make the price up.  If the gap price is near with popular brand,  its difficult to sell.  

Ity like this
Labsa 3% + capb 2% + water 1% + perfume 1%.  Powder will wet and i must dry it 3 day.  
Sles 5%+capb 1% + water 1% + perfume 1% = 5 day to dry it.  

I If use sttp 3%.  It will reduce dry time 1 day.  

[Eruio]

thank for the answer.

i mean wool detergent, i read in one of article, should have ph 7

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one of my competitor is sell $0.31, they use rubbing ash from wood and
burning charcoal’s ash, make them look big and much. and i believe they use that ash + betaine.

so, i make cheapest formula as above, and use much sulfate. because i dont know cheaper than sulfate. but they said my foam is more less than product that use rubbing ash.

so i decide to change the formula

what do u prefer to choose to make high foam laundry?

1. LABSA (0.7%)+SLES (0.7%) +Betain (2,4%)

2. LABSA (1.5%) + Betain (2%) or LAbSA (1%) + Betaine (3%)

3. SLES (1.5%) + Betaine (3%) or SLES (1%) + Betain (3.5%)

Why SLES granules if you already have SLES? 

SLES granules i used is EMAL-10N, the chemical shop in here said to me, that product can make rich foam. because i dont have chemical background, i think its deference with SLES texapon 270N

my process production is

sles - texapon 270N mix with water  + betaine

labsa mix with water

then add to sulfate + carbonate

the result is the foam fast to dissoleve

than i change to

add sles - texapon 270N to sulfate then

add labsa + water to sulfate

then add betaine

(the water amount A with B is same)

the result is quantity foam is same like formula A but the speed to dissolve more slower than formula A

i not try yet the reuslt if betaine + water then add tho sulfate.

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in here to make the legal product, the standart is total active sulfactan is 10-15, i still confuse with that

what the meaning total active sulfactan is 10-15%?

Active Surfactant Matter 10-15 or 10-15% from WT?