DavidW
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You are doing the right thing Perry.
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Really? I don’t think so. Common courtesy is never out of line. That is all I will say on this subject.
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Just because your product itself may not need added preservatives you can’t make an antibacterial claim.
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ahhh , there we go
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Look in the section at top of forum where people have posted their services
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Thanks for the follow up. More than I can say for the original poster.
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IF you are using polysorbate, you need to start at 3 parts poly to each 1 part oil. However, the polysorbate will reduce viscosity most likely and then you have to ry thickening it back up.
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There is a company here in the US names Stryka Botanicals. They usually have good prices (maybe not as good as China).
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How much oil (%) are you trying to put in? Perry is correct. You can also try premixing your oils (at a low percent) into the ALS. Some oils will go in and some won’t.
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Noooooo, my #1 rule is never contact the FDA. Why get on their radar? Others may not care but they are nothing but trouble. Besides I have always found they say we can’t tell you yes and we can’t tell you no.
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If anyone is looking for manufacturing and or filling services feel free to contact me. Send a private message on the board
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Michelle, my opinion is that this all boils down to one’s opinion. Including the opinion of the FDA agent / inspector who may (or may never) look at your product. For me, the term “soothes dryness-induced irritation” is an acceptable cosmetic (non OTC) claim. Claims such as:
“soothes irritation due to eczema”
“soothes itching due to poison oak etc…
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I’ve just given you $500 to $2,000 worth of free advice because I am feeling generous. Play with it, try some things on your own, do some research and see what you come up with. Let us know. Then if you have problems tell us what you have tried and results you have gotten and maybe you will get more help. However, if your not doing work on your own nobody is going to continue giving you free information. Good luck and have fun.
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You can take it all out and add water or PG. If you want, you can also use some butylene glycol to replace some PG. It will make it less “oily” slippery feeling. Try 10% or so. Play with the base making changes and see what you get. That’s half the fun.
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As a starting base try this. Adjust to 100% with anything you may want in there or adjust water.
The stearate will go into hot propylene glycol. This will set up at about 110F
Water 51.0%
Propylene Glycol 33.0%
Sodium stearate 5.0%
Glycerine 7.0%
PEG-4 3%
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What it boils down to is everyone is different. Some prefer only emails, some only calls, some are ok with both. Call when you’d like, email when you’d like.
1 month to me seems reasonable.
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Zink, I am a small to medium size manufacturer. I get so many emails per day that by the time I read and try to take care of 5 or 10 of them I have 10 or 20 more. For that reason I have on my signature line letting people know I only check emails twice to 3 times a day. Personally speaking, phone calls are always best.
As far as lead time for manufacturing it depends how busy the manufacturer is. IF they are already scheduled 4 weeks out then you’re not getting your product in 4 weeks. Our company will usually run between 2 to 5 weeks after all components and anything else customer supplies is sent to us.
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Must be a Dupont product
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You need to understand that manufacturers are going to take care of the larger orders/customers first. I always try to help “the small guys”. What usually ends up happening is a “small” potential customer will contact me while I am a little slow and have time to breath. I agree to work with them and shortly after I get tons of orders. Sometimes this forces a midsized or large manufacturer to take care of those who pays his bills first. I am working with a few “small” customers now and have been for months and we are still in the sample or quotation stage. Some of this is my fault and some the customer’s fault. I find that working with established medium size or larger customers moves the process along much quicker. I find the small customers always have just 1 more change or 1 more question.
Once you have all that out of the way and you are ready to place an order your manufacturer should be able to give you a lead time and pretty much stick to it.
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Laureth 23 can make a formula sticky, especially at 3%. Are you trying to make a skinceuticals knock off?
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@bortopa depening on your formula try 30% to 45% water
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Those are good ideas. I would just like people to participate instead of always taking.
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Try using about 25% Propylene Glycol in your formula. Heat the stearate up in PG & water. it will go in.
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IF you show up out of nowhere and start asking for too much help or complete formulations you just aren’t going to get what you are looking for. It is obvious most times when people have tried to research and just need a hand or whether they are looking for someone to do all the work for them for free.
Also those people that take, take, take and never have time to help anyone else just aren’t getting a response from me. Most here make a living from development in some form or another. While
many of us are happy to help each other, there has to be give and
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Sample came in this morning and we tried it. Did not work much better (if at all better) than PEG-40 hydrogenated castor oil. The thought is appreciated.