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ngarayeva001 said:

I provided several links in the very first comment and addressed what is wrong with your formula. You have to read if you want to learn. This forum is for helping with something you cannot find online. Read the knowledge base, update the formula and you will get more help.

Thanks, will check those link out!

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Belassi said:

Water (infused with calendula and chamomile flowers) - Not well specified. We specify the % of extracts individually. Since these are claims ingredients with no real effect use 0.1% of each.

Organic honey — bug food, no value, omit.

Silk powder — purpose of this is? 0.2%

Colloidal oatmeal — is this an anti-itch cream? maybe 0.2%

Cocoa butter — 2%

Coconut oil X capric caprylic triglycerides 3%

Monoi oil — eh? Try a better claims ingredient eg evening primrose oil 0.2%

Emulsifying wax ( emulsimulse) — never used anything like this so I have no idea. Glycerol monostearate + cetearyl alcohol + Tween 80

Germall plus

Frankincense essential oil 0.0.7%

Myrrh essential oil 0.07%

Sandalwood essential oil 0.1%

Many thanks!

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anyone can help on my formula?

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MarkBroussard said:

Daniel3359 said:

MarkBroussard said:

@Daniel3359:

I’ve given you two options that will meet your needs.  As I mentioned, you can purchase Vegecide from Ingredients To Die For (a re-packer) of the the bulk manufacturer of the product, Inolex.  If your formula does not contain any water, Vegecide alone will suffice for your preservation requirements.

You will find a fairly strong anti-natural bias from some members of ChemistsCorner.  I did enjoy the article on Jessica Iclisoy … thanks for posting it.

Thanks Mark, will try to get more infos on Vegecide, do you think There will be problems for a product to get approved by FDA and in Europe by using Vegecide alone? Or it just depends if it will pass all the tests? Thanks again

That’s why I inquired if your product contained any water or not.  If it is completely anhydrous (no water at all), then “Yes” Vegicide alone would probably do the trick, but that can only be definitively determined by testing, which you are going to have to do under any circumstances since sunscreens are regulated by the FDA as OTC drug products.

If a product contain water what preservative you recommend? Something as close as natural as possible or less toxic thanks

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Microformulation said:

@Daniel3359 What is your SPF active?

Looking for at least 30 spf 

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MarkBroussard said:

@Daniel3359:

I’ve given you two options that will meet your needs.  As I mentioned, you can purchase Vegecide from Ingredients To Die For (a re-packer) of the the bulk manufacturer of the product, Inolex.  If your formula does not contain any water, Vegecide alone will suffice for your preservation requirements.

You will find a fairly strong anti-natural bias from some members of ChemistsCorner.  I did enjoy the article on Jessica Iclisoy … thanks for posting it.

Thanks Mark, will try to get more infos on Vegecide, do you think There will be problems for a product to get approved by FDA and in Europe by using Vegecide alone? Or it just depends if it will pass all the tests? Thanks again

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natzam44 said:

@Daniel3359
I don’t mean to come off as harsh, but if you thought coconut oil was a preservative then that shows that you are not ready to formulate any kind of cosmetic product.

I suggest you do some research on preservatives and not focus on making things “natural”.

Please read the story of Jessica Iclisoy 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chloesorvino/2018/07/11/jessica-iclisoy-california-baby-preservative-reformulation-natural/

I respect your comment but I’m a type of person that doesn’t take no as an answer when I believe in something, I want a 100% natural product and I’ll find a way, it may take years but I’ll get there

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I strongly believe there are ways to obtain a 100% natural product without chemicals but of course for obvious reasons we have been told by the different lobbies that its impossible. 

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MarkBroussard said:

@Daniel3359:

Coconut Oil, Vitamin E, Colloidal Silver Water, Raw Organic Honey … these are not preservatives and won’t preserve anything.  Don’t know where you are getting your information, but it’s incorrect.

Phenethyl Alcohol will be your best bet.  Check Linatural Ultra-3 from Lincoln Fine Ingredients or Glyceryl Caprylate (and) Glyceryl Undecylenate (VegeCide from Ingredients To Die For) … 

thank you Mark, I just want to create primarily a natural sunscreen for my family, if happy with formula and performance I’ll be happy to have a go at marketing, I just notice that coconut oil never spoil, I had one jar sitting in my kitchen for over 1 year and no sign of mould etc so I was thinking coconut oil cold have antibacterial properties, honey also never spoil

feel free to messaging me privately with a list of your services and costs 

best regards

Daniel

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What about silver colloidal water? It also has anti microbic properties

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Dr Catherine Pratt said:

I would use Shea Butter..just a preference.

Thank you Catherine, is it true that Shea may stain your bathing suit? Will cocoa butter give the formula an overall nice smell? Lastly, watch would be the best natural preservative for a butter and oil formula? Will coconut oil and vitamin e be enough to prevent spoiling? What about adding honey or silver colloidal water will it increase the preservation process, can you help with formulation? What are the costs? Don’t hesitate to contact me privately thanks

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It will be tested before marketing just try to use a preservative as close to nature as possible