[choukr11]

Sorry for the late update,

In conclusion, the transparency really depends on the fragrance and the solubilizer, for some frangrances it worked fine with IPM, for others it needed defferent solubilizers, mainly Polysorbate-20 (Eumulgin SML 20) and Octyldodecanol (Eutanol G).

For nearly all the fragarances Octyldodecanol (Eutanol G) worked fine at a % of 30 (fragrance + solubilizer). The result is a transparent homogenous Massage Oil.

Thank you.

[choukr11]

UPDATE : we added 0,2% xanthan gum and 2% glycerin and it worked just fine.

[choukr11]

UPDATE: Didn’t work as a suspending agent, it helped me increase the viscosity but bad particule suspension.

[choukr11]

You might be right, i’ll experiment with the sample and see what happens, better be skeptical than accepting all claims.

Thank you!

[choukr11]

“STEPAN-MILD® GCC is a 100% bio-based emollient ester that is very versatile and offers benefits in many types of personal care applications. In hygiene formulations, it can boost the foam volume, enhance viscosity, gives conditioning properties and can offer a polymer-free suspending system (Stepan Structured Liquids patented technology). It has also been proven to act as a preservative booster. Lastly, its melting character and sensory properties can be an asset in skin care formulations.”

from ULPROSPECTOR

What do you think?

[choukr11]

Thank you so much!
Great community!

[choukr11]

Chemist77 said:

What if you just add polymer in water and try to neutralize it just to see if it still OK to be used?? 

That’s what i did! didn’t work

choukr11 said:

Thank you for your input, the TDS specifies that i neutralize the mix with NaOH solution, and i did once on a solution “water + acrylates copolymer 5%” and another on the final mix but it didn’t change anything. Still have that white color.

[choukr11]

PhanThanhPhat 

in the TDS they mention that at a pH between 6 and 13 the product functions at its best and i increased the pH to 7 and still nothing changed.
i’m suspecting if the polymer’s sample is ruined or something or i might be doing something wrong.

ps: TDS http://coastsouthwest.com/app/webroot/files/uploads/Synthalen%20W400%20-Distributed%20by%20Coast%20Southwest.pdf

[choukr11]

Chemist77 said:

Increase the pH to neutralize the polymer, otherwise it won’t do the job it is supposed to I do. What does the TDS of that polymer says about the final pH adjustment????

Thank you for your input, the TDS specifies that i neutralize the mix with NaOH solution, and i did once on a solution “water + acrylates copolymer 5%” and another on the final mix but it didn’t change anything. Still have that white color.

[choukr11]

with no base its around 4

[choukr11]

72,50 Aqua

13,00 Sodium laureth sulfate

5,00 Cocamidopropyl Betaine

1,50 Coco-Glucoside (and) Glyceryl Oleate

3,00 Acrylates copolymer

1,50 Sodium chloride

other: preservative, NaOH solution, perfume
ps: water, acrylates copolymer ans sodium chloride are the variables, all other ingredients are constants.

[choukr11]

Same problem here, i want to quantify suspending time or ability.

keep me posted please.