[billichemist]

hey guys! I also have been having a couple of issues with a similar formula… a Mixed fruit acids/lactic cleansing milk… my formula keeps separating and does not pass accelerated stability… is it because of my emulsion system? the more acid i put in, the less stable it is!! 

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So i should remove DEA completely and thicken with salt?

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aqua - 48%

glycerine - 5%

ALS - 20%

Adjust to pH 4.5

Cocoamide DEA - 15%

Phenoxyethanol - 0.55

Fragrance - 0.65%

alcoholic  extracts - q.s.

Cocoamidopropyl betaine - 11%

[billichemist]

this extra information might help…

it is a ALS, Cocoamindopropyl Betaine and Cocoamide DEA system. its not my formula, i have merely been using this as a template/base. is this template even worth working off?

[billichemist]

hi guys, I tried adding 1:1 polysorbate 20 premixed with the EO blend, but it didn’t work! Also, reducing the pH from 7.5 to ~6.5 also drastically reduced the viscosity!

should i be using more polysorbate? or a combination of polysorbate 20 and Cremophor? 

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Hi @perry and @davidW thank you for your responses. I am trying to add in 0.65% of an EO blend that is high in citrus oils… 

I also have an alcoholic extract in the formula, albeit at a low percentage.. is alcohol known to be incompatible with such surfactant formulas?

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@zink thanks for the update!

possibly a dumb question… would you put EOs into a benzoyl peroxide cream/gel?? will it get degraded but the BPO or vice versa??

[billichemist]

magnesium aluminum silicate is good for Benzoyl peroxide formulas! any updates on your project?

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@bill_Toge thank you for that! Now i Just have to get my supplier to give me all that info….. Working on a resource now… will update soon

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@david Just for cost reasons! 

@MarkBroussard Thank you for that! 

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@belassi thanks for that! Yeah when i mean Decyl Glucoside, i actually meant CAPB! haha..

@bobzchemist nah I am located in australia!