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Hi LincsChemist.

Thank you so much for your kind reply..

I dont have anything specifically against Dimethicone.. just hard to get hold of- well, just extortionate shipping costs for the amount I need for experimenting.

I have used Cyclomethicone with a lot of success, but I read that there are a lot of people that have a negative view of all the “cones”…

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Belassi said:

You mean D5? It depends where you are located. Its use is restricted in many countries. My thoughts are, that D5 would slowly evaporate from a leave-on due to body temp so, in a repellent, I doubt that you want the repellent partially evaporating. Or who knows, maybe D5 vapour is a mosquito repellent? You might become bigger than OFF, one day, I will be sitting in my Old People’s Making a coffee in a 500mL Pyrex beaker, and I’ll see you in the news, the man who made OFF obsolete.

HAHAAHH!! I’m not sure I will ever reach the exalted heights of making anything obsolete- but if I do, I will be sure to visit you and buy you a Nespresso machine with matching bespoke pyrex beaker!!!

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Belassi said:

You mean D5? It depends where you are located. Its use is restricted in many countries. My thoughts are, that D5 would slowly evaporate from a leave-on due to body temp so, in a repellent, I doubt that you want the repellent partially evaporating. Or who knows, maybe D5 vapour is a mosquito repellent? You might become bigger than OFF, one day, I will be sitting in my Old People’s Making a coffee in a 500mL Pyrex beaker, and I’ll see you in the news, the man who made OFF obsolete.

Hi Belassi! Thank you so much for your kind reply.. yes, I believe it is D5- my apologies, I am a relative newbie.

I’m making a light moisturiser and I have been having issues with the dreaded soaping… I have been recommended to use 2-3% Cyclomethicone (D5) in my mixture to stop this.. (in the absence of Dimethicone)

I have also read that using a low HLB emulsifier would help (??) At the moment I am using a proprietary Glyceryl Stearate/Peg 100 mix (it comes 50/50 mixed already).. I am considering adding 2% pure glyceryl stearate to help remedy this..

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!

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ggpetrov said:

I think 2-3% would be enough, but keep in mind that Cyclomethicone is volatile oil, so you have to add it to the cool down phase.

Thank you very much for your kind reply. It is greatly appreciated.. will start at 3% and work down in increments of 0.25% to get the right mix..

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bibsy said:

I have been having the soaping/foaming issue for some time, and I think I will need to go down the silicone route.
I can only get my hands on Cyclomethicine at the moment… Could anyone recommend a concentration to use? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry, I meant , Cyclomethicone

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Hi. I would also like to ask, if cyclomethicone can be used instead of Dimethicone to reduce soaping.. also what concentrations would be advised?

[bibsy]

I have been having the soaping/foaming issue for some time, and I think I will need to go down the silicone route.
I can only get my hands on Cyclomethicine at the moment… Could anyone recommend a concentration to use? Any help would be greatly appreciated.