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It sounds as if it could be used as a thickener?
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Only two ways I can think of. Use a thickener - but then you’ll have a different product.
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@manstra, thanks for that. Unfortunately my Kao distributor only stocks a limited number of surfactants. Even for RLM45CA they only have two customers and one of them is us!
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1. Do you have a logo and if so is it trademarked. If not then that is the first thing to do.
2. Take your logo to a 3-D design professional and have it made into a 3-D drawing.
3. Take your 3-D drawing to a printing company - one that prints in sintered metal - and have them print it with a backing the correct size and shape for the stamp.
There are alternative methods using older technology but this is about the simplest. -
Machine shop job. Or an engraver. Depending on the degree of detail required.
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Knockout the alagae and try it again.
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testers; I will have to evaluate it as a single ingredient of course (I can’t avoid the vitamin E though)
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Well it looks like 1% and 1% vitamin E (I guess the resveratrol is dissolved in the vitamin E, it’s a hydrophobic molecule) from a piece in the Dermatology Times. Interestingly, it has a similar pseudo-estrogenic effect as that possessed by glycyrrhizic acid.
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I recall it took so much trouble and so much time to get the sample in the first place
Uh huh. Thanks for that. I’ll see what happens when I try to get some. -
Some value? Yes. About 3 years ago I held beliefs similar to yours. I obtained many costly extracts of this and that. Trichogen, what a joke that is, just for starters. None of the test panel showed any effect of anything. After a couple of years … do you really think you are going to come up with something when a whole world of cosmetics companies devote their efforts to it and come up with nothing?
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Anything else I should know?
Yes. You’re wasting your time, unless you include the prescription drug, Minoxidil. -
It is about 400 packages, which is not very difficult to store. For instance I recently bought 600 of a 70g package, and including the tops and liners it fitted in two easily handled boxes. However, you would need to guarantee enough continuing business to be able to use it all by its expiry date; unlikely with a new venture. Your only reasonable choice is simply to buy it from one of the reputable online sellers. By the way, “simple” and “Organic/Botanical” are polar opposites.
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My first observation, is that you have no surfactants in there, unless there’s something you’re not telling us. Ingredients such as ethanol and glycerin are anti-foaming so it’s hardly surprising the results you describe. A better approach might be to use a polyoxyethylene/surfactant type emulsifier such as Emulgin which does contain a surfactant.
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I still have 2Kg of 12% which is a brown powder. I suspect it is the initial extract of powdered root. I’d like to use this in a hair conditioner but I think I’d like to refine it further. Maybe I should dissolve it in alcohol, filter it, and let the alcohol evaporate out so as to precipitate the insoluble acid.
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Thanks for that. I will investigate further.
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At 1Kg the shipping cost is twice the price of the product. I think I will use my alternative solution to this problem, which is to synthesise the dipotassium salt which is soluble, rather than dissolve the pure acid in DPG. Thanks for your response.
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Can’t find this in Mexico and for that matter, I can’t find a US supplier either.
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After cooling to 3C, no precipitation. Any remaining acid form would have come out of solution at that temperature.
The reaction is to my surprise as fast and complete as an inorganic acid-base reaction such as calcium carbonate and HCl. Titration is the go-to method. The main processing difficulty is dealing with dissolving the acid in hot water, it tends to clump. So then I used a high shear blender to break it all up. This created a Mr Whippy. I found a way of dealing with it but this is getting like writing a book. -
http://www.technology-x.net/CN54/201510005226.html has interesting details.
I used a somewhat different method to the one I described above. There are some interesting features to it. For instance, it buffers between pH 3.5 and 6, trying to exceed 6 results in precipitation of - what, exactly? (DPG in solution has a pH of 6 max.) Not the acid, at least I don’t think so. It’s really impossible finding much information about this. I suspect the precipitate is the monopotassium form, but can’t find information as to the solubility of that form. Anyway I produced 400mL of 12% solution. -
I happen to have $500 of the pure acid, do you expect me to throw it away?
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OK. Here is my proposed method. Any criticism welcomed.
GLA: glycyrrhizic acid 95% purity. KOH: High purity potassium hydroxide.
Intent: Synthesise a 25% vw/w solution of dipotassium glycyrrhinate.GLA: 41.2g
KOH: 2.8g
water: 132gDissolve 2.8g KOH in 132g water.
Warm to 50C
Add 41.2g GLA with stirring
When a clear solution is obtained, allow to cool to room temp and check for precipitate (GLA is only 0.2% soluble at room temp)
If not OK, raise temp to 70C and repeat.
Adjust pH as necessary to 7.0
Add 1% preservative (KEM NAT) -
It’s quite a simple conditioner, then. Everything from Fragrance onwards is <1%.
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Isn’t BTMS an emulsifier? You didn’t say you had an emulsifier in there.
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I’m going to see if I can obtain isopentyldiol in Mexico because it’s a good stabiliser for the vit C compound. Thanks for your answer Bill. Having had some success with converting the pure acid to the dipotassium salt I think I will use that instead which means I don’t need alcohol.
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just curious though, how do you know that the extracts would disquise the use of parabens? are parabens commonly used to preserve these type of ingredients?
No, these extracts actually contain parabens (as do blueberries, etc)