[Anna]

Thanks @Perry and @Belassi

[Anna]

Thanks every one.Yes as @Belassi, the pH is neutral . any one suggest What is the best pH range for a Brightening cream?

@Perry, i just ordered a pH mete already, should have it in next some days.

1 more question, what is the normal viscosity for a cream formula ?

Thank you !

[Anna]

hi @ozgirl

the formula if for whitening+Anti Acne cream

here is the formula;

Distilled Water          50.450

Aloe vera powder 200:1      0.280

Xanthan Gum            0.300

VITAMIN B3 NIACINAMIDE 5.000

JOJOBA OIL    4.000

Capryloyl Glycerin/Sebacic Acid Copolymer          4.000

Caprylic Capric Triglycerides           2.000

 vitamin e natural     1.000

C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate         4.000

Stearic Acid : 1

Cetyl Alcoho :2

OLIVEM 1000            6.500

Burdock Root [4:1] Powder 1.250

white willow bark(16:1)      0.500

Allantoin         0.500

Sodium-L-Lactate      3.000

Bearberry extract     6.000

Phenoxyethanol        1.000

citric acid        0.220

[Anna]

@MarkBroussard, @MichelleReece
I up load the image to photobucket. please help me to check if is something is wrong.
here is the link http://s739.photobucket.com/user/namoadi/library/Form?sort=3&page=1

[Anna]

 @MarkBroussardMichelleReece
my final pH is 6.2-6.5 . i tried both ways

- first time i put  white willow bark(16:1) powder
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[Anna]

my formula below:

Distilled Water

Aloe vera powder 200:1

Xanthan Gum

VITAMIN B3 NIACINAMIDE

JOJOBA OIL

Capryloyl Glycerin/Sebacic Acid Copolymer

Caprylic Capric Triglycerides

 vitamin e natural

C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate

OLIVEM 1000

white willow bark(16:1) powder

Burdock root extract (4:1) powder

Allantoin

Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate

Sodium-L-Lactate

Bearberry extract

LICORICE extract

Chamomile Extract

kakadu plum

Phenoxyethanol

citric acid

[Anna]

Hi Perry , MichelleReece 

 i tried to make the sample again and found out that the problem caused fish eye (it getting bigger some day later) because of Burdock root extract (powder) & White willow bark extract(powder)(even i dissolved in warm water first) and use high sheer mixer(Silverson) at 2600prm.

Can you tell me should i use power extract in the formula ? or is there any way to fix this problem?

I couldn’t liquid extract in Australia.I will post my formula.

Thank you1

[Anna]

Thank so much MarkBroussard
1 more question, pleas ehelp me. I am looking for the Acrylic Cream jar from Alibaba.com. They require for minimum 3000-5000 pcs. The problem i purchased some sample from aliexpress.com ( and the quality is really bad), Do you know any trusted supplier? What is the average  price should i send for?

[Anna]

Thanks Belassi

I will go to the shop to have a look.

[Anna]

I use Ika overhead stirrer, Belassi can you send me brand, model  of the one you use?

[Anna]

Actually i just want to know because in Vietnam , many people use it ..

[Anna]

I will try it again MarkBroussard
I will also try as  advice from chemicalmatt
  MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR (:

[Anna]

@ MarkBroussard
 still be failed with 3% C12,15 Alkyl Benzoate  to reduce soaping ( no braking out any more, good news). Do you thing the big problem is Olivem 1000 which cause whitening effect when rub on? what is the best natural emulsifier that i can use in stead of Olivem 1000?

[Anna]

Thank you guys! I will try today :-*

[Anna]

Hi MarkBroussard
Yes it is exactly as you said. less sticky now.  I still have 1 more question (involving from my first formula to now, however totally forgot to ask you in previous message.)
1.There is “jelly”( touch and feel) on my skin when I wash off my face like there is a layer cover my face( of course when i wash off it, it smooth). What was that? I haven’t see that from other skin care products i used before ?
2. other skin care product absorb to skin very quickly without white (as seen in cleanser,). I have this problem. I tried to search on the internet but did not see the result.
Thanks Mark

[Anna]

Hi MarkBroussard
I am testing the formula as your suggestion for 3 days. I change a little bit.

Xanthan Gum: 0.2% to 1.5% (I thought 0.2 is not enough to thicken). ( next time should reduce to 1%).

Olivem 1000 6% to 7%

Vitamin E T50 2% reduce to 1%

There is no burning feeling any more. No pimple or oil (i think it control my oil skin, good view). however , After applying, there is 2 small problems:
1. a little sticky feeling when you touch on
2. the tighten feeling on my skin whole day. ( like when use apply white egg, or yoghourt ,after 7 minutes (not 20 minute , it drys and have tighten feeling on your skin.). This is really uncomfortable feeling.
3. I amusing IKa werke  stirrer. When mix them together and stir. The speed i set up is about 1300pr, after 5 minutes, reduce to 900 pr .(Sometimes i increase it o 1100px for 1 minutes). When add Active agent (cool down phase), i reduce to 500pr. THE PROBLEM IS rather lexible than normal cream (thicker cream than normal, do you think reduce xanthan Gum will resolve problem?).I don’t have the Viscosity meter yet. Must i need it to check?

4. You asked me ” why there are too much ingredients in my  former formula”. I was wondering (eg..DIOR that i had been using)( Or i check other brands,. why there are too much ingredient in their formula ?
Thank a lot for your helps

[Anna]

Thanks MarkBroussard !
You are great!

[Anna]

Hi MarkBroussard,
What is big different between Glycol Stearate and Glycol Distearate ?i have search  on Australia supplier or in makingcosmetic.com they only sell Glycol Distearate.
Do you know where to buy Glycol Stearate ?
Thanks !

[Anna]

MarkBroussard!
I am much apreciated of your helps. You are so kind. I will make a practice follow your suggestion on 25th and I will let you know the result ( I must be brave to test on my face again (: )

[Anna]

Thanks Belassi.
still wait for my face to be healed then will make the next test. Can you tell me what kind of color added in to make the cream is white color? ( there is Licorice Extract that brown color so my cream is not white…
Thanks (:

[Anna]

Hi Belassi,
Thanks for your info. My skin is sensitive, however i have been took care of it well. get back 1 month ago it was very smooth(Eating 0.5kg papaya every days???). I read somewhere it said Papaya is good for healing and whitening as well. That’s why i thought it is a good ingredient. Now I know it is cause my problem…I will tell you if there is anything new without papaya extract in next formula (^__^)

[Anna]

Thanks a lot for your kindness and spend time for me MarkBroussard.
I will try on it today (: