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Xathan gum in shampoo and shower gel
Xathan gum in shampoo and shower gel Not compatible with cationic surfactants? with cationic polymer is it? because it cannot hydrate properly and in the end the xathan gum separates
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Remove cationic surfactant from Shampoo and it will be fine
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Abdullah said:Remove cationic surfactant from Shampoo and it will beI have removed these. But with Polyquaternium I have an issue with post-cationic polymers in general
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@fotis83 There are two ways of using an anionic and a cationic polymer together: 1) by using an amphoteric (like cocamidopropyl betaine) between them, and 2) by forming a polyelectrolyte complexes (PEC) between both type of polymers (Tresemme brand use this technology, so you can check out some patents).
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@ketchito is PEC a method or an ingredient?
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@Abdullah PEC is a complex formed by polymers of different charge.
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@ketchito only polymers or surfactants too?
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ketchito said:Abdullah said:@ketchito only polymers or surfactants too?
@Abdullah Only polymers, since they are the poly-electrolytes (the ones that have charge, of course).
Will only mixing polymers like xanthan gum and cationic guar make poly-electrolytes complex or it should be mixed in a specific way?
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Abdullah said:ketchito said:Abdullah said:@ketchito only polymers or surfactants too?
@Abdullah Only polymers, since they are the poly-electrolytes (the ones that have charge, of course).
Will only mixing polymers like xanthan gum and cationic guar make poly-electrolytes complex or it should be mixed in a specific way?
@Abdullah In a specific way, and at specific ratios. You better find some patents or chapter books first.
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