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  • whats the best way to dissolve texapon(sodium laureth sulfate) in water?

    Posted by nasrins on June 7, 2014 at 1:37 am

     whats the best way to save time in dissolving texapon? its time consuming…

    nasrins replied 9 years, 10 months ago 8 Members · 29 Replies
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  • Bimsmide

    Member
    June 7, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    What are you using for? I dissolve it in sulphonic acid for dishwash.

  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    June 7, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    disperse it in hot water and use a high-shear mixer

  • nasrins

    Member
    June 8, 2014 at 4:41 am

    I want it for hair or body shampoo ..when I mixed it wih water it takes about half hour.. maybe there is a better way to dissolve it. even I try NaCl solution but there isnt any change.

  • Chemist77

    Member
    June 8, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    Are you using needles or 70% active? Check whether it is 2 moles EO if it is in paste form.

  • nasrins

    Member
    June 9, 2014 at 12:41 am

    whats needles?
    I use 70% SLES and its in paste form.

  • Chemist77

    Member
    June 9, 2014 at 12:47 am

    Try to use lukewarm water, might help a bit I suppose. As I told you check the EO moles with your supplier.

  • nasrins

    Member
    June 9, 2014 at 1:26 am

    whats EO ?

  • Chemist77

    Member
    June 9, 2014 at 1:32 am

    EO is Ethylene Oxide, I am sure you are well aware of ethoxylation and if you remember we had a short discussion too about this ;-)

  • nasrins

    Member
    June 9, 2014 at 2:03 am

    whats a relation between EO and dissolving of texapon?

  • Chemist77

    Member
    June 9, 2014 at 2:19 am

    What do u think is texapon????????????

  • OldPerry

    Member
    June 9, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    Texapon is Sodium Laureth Sulfate.  The ‘eth’ part of the Laureth refers to Ethlyene Oxide.  The more EO in the molecule, the more water soluble.  

    TEXAPON N 70 NA - has an average of 2 mols of EO
  • Bimsmide

    Member
    June 9, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    @perry will I be correct to say the more the EO the more foaming the laureth

  • nasrins

    Member
    June 10, 2014 at 12:36 am

    @perry is there a way to increase the speed of dissolving texapon?

  • OldPerry

    Member
    June 12, 2014 at 10:57 am

    @Bimsmide - it depends on how the EO effects the CMC point of the surfactant.  I’m not really sure there is a general rule but it’s probably more EO with increase foaming of laureth to a point.  I’m not sure what that point would be.

    @nasrins - Did you try hot water and high speed mixing?  You might also try pre-blending it with something else like Glycerin or some other liquid in your formulation.
  • nasrins

    Member
    June 16, 2014 at 12:42 am

    @perry I think both hot water and high speed arent good idea. with hot water adjusting viscosity becomes difficult and with high speed foam is produces. even I try to dissolve texapon in nacl solution but it doesnt work.

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    June 16, 2014 at 10:18 am

    30 minutes doesn’t sound like a very long dissolution time to me - and if you can’t increase your water temperature or your mixing speed, you are stuck with it. The only alternative would be to buy a less-concentrated grade.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    June 17, 2014 at 8:27 am

    @nasrins - I don’t understand why hot water would make it harder to adjust viscosity.  Wouldn’t you just heat it up then adjust your viscosity when you cool the batch down?

  • nasrins

    Member
    June 18, 2014 at 5:21 am

    @perry I know that heating increases the solubilizing process but I think there sould be a good other way.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    June 18, 2014 at 8:24 am

    I know of no better way.

  • nasrins

    Member
    June 18, 2014 at 10:36 am

    thanks perry

  • cosmo_girl

    Member
    June 26, 2014 at 10:37 pm

    What blade are you using? When I use texapon the homogenizer helps to break it down faster and better than a chopper blade.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    June 27, 2014 at 9:28 am

    You should heat water up to 70degree

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    June 27, 2014 at 9:29 am

    High steer is next reason and i think an other way is available

  • nasrins

    Member
    June 28, 2014 at 7:34 am
  • vjay

    Member
    June 28, 2014 at 7:57 am

    you can make a reverse process like first add texapon into the main vessel and add slowly water in it with continuous mixing may be it will work for you.

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