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  Water in Oil

  Posted by nijam on January 21, 2015 at 5:59 am

  hello guys.

  This is my oilbased ingredients .
  -petrolatum
  -beeswax
  -castor oil
  -parfum

  I want to add PVP 30(waterbased) and i know its possible to mix oilbased and waterbased together.

  Then i should add some emulsifiers.

  My question
  1.what emulsifiers thats i can use? can used ceteareth-25?
  2.how many of them i should use?

  this is for hair grease product.
  thanks.

  Bill_Toge replied 9 years, 9 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  Bill_Toge

  Member

  January 21, 2015 at 9:01 pm

  it is possible to emulsify water into oil, but:

  a) it will radically alter the look and feel of your product;

  b) to get your water phase in and keep it in, you’ll need good temperature control and a very efficient shear mixer;

  and c) because your PVP will be in the dispersed phase rather than the continuous phase, it will not be effective

  to get a fixative, “sticky” effect similar to PVP in an oil-based formula, I’d suggest you replace part of your petrolatum (say, 10-20% w/w) with microcrystalline wax and fine tune it from there

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  nijam

  Member

  January 22, 2015 at 2:58 am

  Thanks for the clear insight.

  i already tried to replace part of petrolatum. but failed.

  for your information,i’m trying to make a strong hold hair grease.

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  Bill_Toge

  Member

  January 22, 2015 at 1:12 pm

  yes, I figured you were making that type of product

  as I said, try adding microcrystalline wax with a high melting point, and/or lanolin wax; either of them will give you a good strong hold and allow you to keep your formula and process simple

  
  

  if you try to turn it into a water-in-oil emulsion, you’ll only make a rod for your own back

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