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  • Using antioxidants, tea and pine bark.

    Posted by belassi on January 26, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    Having completed a number of experiments now with green tea extract and pine bark extract, these two resemble each other to a great extent. They both have a similar (dark brown) colour; they both act as indicators, changing colour with the pH; they both act as antioxidants.
    It seems to me that there are two distinct ways to use these.
    1. As actives, supposed to have a beneficial effect when absorbed into the skin.
    2. As protection for unstable actives in the formula.
    Or - both.
    I find that a 0.2%  (solids) concentration of tea extract produces a similar colour (pink/beige) to 1% of the (aqueous) pine bark extract.
    One difference that I have noted is that the tea extract (in an emulsion) rapidly degrades to beige in an ordinary cosmetic pot, whereas the pine bark retains its pink tone.
    I decided to use pine bark extract to protect the Vitamin C palmitate against oxidation (reason #2) and also because it has skin-lightening activity of its own (reason #1). I find myself tempted to use tea also, although I fear that the colour might be too dark as a result.

    belassi replied 7 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Microformulation

    Member
    January 26, 2017 at 5:12 pm

    Have you done ORAC testing or are you doing this “informally?”

  • belassi

    Member
    January 26, 2017 at 5:18 pm

    I don’t even know what ORAC testing is!

  • belassi

    Member
    January 26, 2017 at 6:52 pm
  • Microformulation

    Member
    January 27, 2017 at 2:53 am

    ORAC is still used a great deal in Cosmetics. I would learn the basics before dismissing it based upon Food Science. Alternatives are the Trolox Test or the Folin-Ciocateu reagent test. Even ORAC beats a SWAG.

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    January 27, 2017 at 3:52 am

    @belassi:

    I read something recently ranking antioxidants:

    Gotu Kola > Pinaster Bark Extract > Green Tea

    Curious, I have a client who has requested Pinaster Pine Bark Extract … I obtained a brown powder that is supposedly oil soluble … you mentioned you are using a liquid … may I ask where you’re purchasing it and is it Pinaster … the Pinaster is bloody expensive.

  • belassi

    Member
    January 27, 2017 at 6:36 am

    Oh that’s good news. I routinely include 1% of gotu cola. 
    What I have is “Pine Bark - Proanthocyanidins - Pre Dissolved Solution” and contains 9.5% Proanthocyanidins. I bought it from Bulk Actives but it came direct from Taiwan. It is a thick brown fluid.

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