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  • Thickener for clear low pH exfoliating cleanser?

    Posted by Zink on September 25, 2018 at 3:54 pm

    Any good options for thickeners in a pH 3.5 glucoside based cleanser? Ideally able to generate a clear or clear ish solution?

    Xanthan Gum isn’t very stable at that pH, Carbomer is not suitable, Sclerotium Gum isn’t clear and leaves a lot to be desired texture wise although it is acid stable, acrylate polymers might hurt TEWL over time according to some research.

    Any other options? 

    Chemist77 replied 6 years, 1 month ago 6 Members · 6 Replies
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  • DAS

    Member
    September 25, 2018 at 4:02 pm

    The Ultrez and the smart lines of lubrizol. 
    https://www.lubrizol.com/Personal-Care/Carbopol-SMART

  • OldPerry

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    September 25, 2018 at 7:35 pm
  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    September 25, 2018 at 8:10 pm

    Sepimax Zen is a polymer thickener that can be used in extremely low pH formulations. It can be used in surfactant systems too.

  • em88

    Member
    September 26, 2018 at 6:57 am

    HEC? HPMC?

  • Zink

    Member
    October 5, 2018 at 6:18 am

    Thanks, which smart line from lubrizol @DAS?

    Peg-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate might also be a good choice here. HEC and HPMC hasn’t worked well in the past, makes a very granular solution.

  • Chemist77

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    October 5, 2018 at 1:16 pm

    @em88 bang on money here, Methocel 40-101 would be a great choice I suppose. Need slight neutralization, and back acid neutralization is much easier without any loss of viscosity. I have based my comments on a trial for hand sanitizer free of water ethanol having CHG. Cellulose are a liitle slimy in application IMO but they can be worked around as well. Did a beard wash with HEC and an APG, worked fine.

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