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Syndet Bar
I created a shampoo bar that defied the odds: Doesn’t fall apart, soft, silky, lasts forever, safe, makes hair so amazing that my hair was below my waist, people said it was the best shampoo they tried, used ingredients that weren’t supposed to work like vegetable glycerine…BUT making it was a pain in the arse. So I decided to make a pourable bar. But I don’t like any of the advice online, especially using cationic emusifiers.
Can I use this formula?
70% Two forms of powder surfanctant
12% Liquid Surfactant
4% Glycerine
3% Keratin
1% Preservative
etc….I didn’t want to waste any more time creating something that might not work so this is just a dabble 🙂
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17 Replies
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Hard to know if your just call them surfactants. If your powder surfactant is SCI and that’s what’s causing the issue, then adding CAPB can help melt and incorporate SCI better. You just need to find the best ratio so it doesn’t get too soft.
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No one would steal or copy your formula. People that can advise you to correct your formula can make better formula than you too.
Also your formula has nothing to make it spacial or any better than the most basic bar. So don’t worry about someone copying it.
Please write the ingredients name properly if want us to be able to advise you properly.
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Hi Maiden Blossom,
have you ever looked at the one time use shampoo and conditioner squares/balls/triangle etc.
There are many areas like camping and hiking and even bikies could use these and not have to travel around with heavy liquids.
Let me know what you think??? I could definitely help you do those and I think you would be very unique still.
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Thank you so much. I’m a hobbyist and looking to sell at local festivals since losing my job. But I am considering applying for grants to start a business which would allow me to pay for consulting.
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Good for you…
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I would leave glycerin out unless you add Betaine (vegemoist) as it causes the hair cuticles to stand up making hair look and feel frizzy.
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OMG I’ve never heard this, do you have more information? I use it in everything but I did have two customers who said they can’t use it but I never knew why. Is this for all hair types? The past few weeks I’ve been trialing a limited ingredient shampoo and conditioner bar, it did its job but did not feel nice at all while using it and after my hair dried, it wasn’t as effective. So I slowly added in the extras and it was much better but not as perfect as my old recipe. It was ugly, didn’t sell well but those who bought it would say it was the best. I think I am now using only 2% vegetable glycerine with sodium hyaluronate which appears to calm frizz but now I’m not so sure.
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It’s true. The cuticle swells and lifts up because the humectant properties from the glycerin draw the surrounding humidity in. Betaine counteracts this and is superb IMO in shampoo at 3-5%. Try including Betaine at the different amounts with glycerin and then without and see what you think. By the way, check out Alexmo for the Ceramides NP. Hope this helps!
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Would you share some literature that supports this?
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I was given this info by a Trichologist & Derm. I loosely tested the theory by myself and found there to be some truth to it. I will see if I can find anything on pubmed etc.
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I’ve added it to my leave in conditioner since my labels were already designed. The designer charges $50 for each change. But its such good information. I do add other hydrating and anti frizz ingredients which is likely why it worked so well but I do want to take my formualtions to the next level and this is definitely it. There’s anhydrous betaine on amazon that I think will work, someone else here uses it too.
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Glad it helped! How’s it all going?
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I’m going to order it soon. But I am using snow mushroom and betaine which is supposed to be more hydrating than hyaluronic acid.
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No, it’s water soluble. Look for Vegemoist in the States or find it on the other site I mentioned. Good luck with your experiments!
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Would tremella be as effective?
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Hi again, sorry but I’m not familiar with this material.
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