Sodium Ascorbyl Phospate soluble in oil?

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Sodium Ascorbyl Phospate soluble in oil?

Posted by lilhunnybee on April 24, 2018 at 6:20 pm

Hello All!
I’ve been trying to make a facial oil for my own use, based on the ingredients of a brand I like. I’ve purchased all the ingredients already, see the ingredient list below:

Ingredients: Organic Oryza Sativa, (ricebran) Organic Rosa Mosqueta, (rosehip oil) French Calcium, Wild Crafted Rosa Damascena, Organic Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate, Organic Helichrysum Gymnocephalum, (helichrysum oil) Wild Crafted Santalum Album (sandalwood) Oil

I’m stopped up now at the point of adding Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate because I thought it was only soluble in water. Yet, the ingredient list above does not have any water in it. Does this make sense? Can sodium ascorbyl phosphate dissolve in oil?

DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ replied 6 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
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Microformulation

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April 24, 2018 at 7:45 pm

I am wondering how they obtained “Organic Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate.”
Doreen

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April 24, 2018 at 8:26 pm

:joy:
lilhunnybee

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April 24, 2018 at 8:46 pm

I am wondering how they obtained “Organic Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate.”

lol. One among the many curiosities in this formulation. French Calcium is pretty funny.
Microformulation

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April 24, 2018 at 9:12 pm

French Calcium is their bastardization of Calcium Ketogluconate. Is this the Holi(oil) Refining Youth Serum Agent Nateur? https://www.agentnateur.com/collections/products
OldPerry

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April 24, 2018 at 9:16 pm

@Microformulation - to be fair, sodium ascorbyl phosphate is an organic molecule containing numerous C-H bonds. Of course, organic chemistry has little to do with the way “organic” is used in the marketplace.
lilhunnybee

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April 24, 2018 at 9:36 pm

Is this the Holi(oil) Refining Youth Serum Agent Nateur? https://www.agentnateur.com/collections/products

Yes it is! It’s actually a pretty nice product. so i just wanted to recreate it for myself because it’s so expensive. I just don’t understand the vitamin c part.
Microformulation

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April 24, 2018 at 10:24 pm

@Perry While I agree with the Organic Chemistry analogy, I am quite sure that the USDA has a differing opinion.
lilhunnybee

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April 27, 2018 at 4:52 pm

@Microformulation - Any thoughts on my original question? Or am I not allowed to ask that? Sorry I’m new to this forum.
Microformulation

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April 27, 2018 at 5:10 pm

The best guess I can make is that they dispersed the SAP into the oil base. I don’t see significant aquesous phase for any other option.
DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

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April 27, 2018 at 7:49 pm

They likely used P2O5 during Phosphation process which means you have 70/30 mixture of mono and diesters which can easily be added to the oil phase.
lilhunnybee

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May 1, 2018 at 12:43 am

Thanks!