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  Shampoo surfactant problem

  Posted by Umff on April 2, 2020 at 9:30 pm

  Ammonium lauryl sulphate (ALS)

  Cocomidopropyl betaine (CAPB)

  Sodium lauroyl sarcosinate Is their any way to get this stable…. <ALS need ph below 6,5 and Sodium lauroyl sarcosinate need above 6. Seem to be a small window, will this make a problem ? Thanks

  ngarayeva001 replied 5 years ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  belassi

  Member

  April 2, 2020 at 11:32 pm

  I advise you not to try this, if it’s true that the third surfactant needs a pH > 6. You will get the ALS breaking down and your product will smell of ammonia. Use another surfactant such as sodium cocoamphoacetate. pH max 5.5 for ALS to stay stable.

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  Umff

  Member

  April 3, 2020 at 4:31 am

  so i need a very effictive surfactant, but a also want a high  pH in the product
  ph 5,5 is to low

  i dont wanna use SLS/SLES

  Any suggestion

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  Jennycat

  Member

  April 3, 2020 at 2:16 pm

  AOS and CAPB should work.

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  Umff

  Member

  April 3, 2020 at 2:32 pm

  thanks 

  is AOS in efficiant sufactant?
  ,,, its a clarifing shampoo

  Ammonium lauryl sulphate (ALS)

  Sodium laureth sulphate (SLES)

  Sodium lauryl sulphate (SLS)

  Sodium coco-sulfate (SCS)

  Sodium C14-16 olefin sulfonate (AOS)

  Sodium polystyrene sulfonate

   

  is the only i found work in this context

  Please inlight me 

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  ngarayeva001

  Member

  April 3, 2020 at 4:59 pm

  I have not worked with ALS and can’t comment on it, but Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate is a great surfactant and there is absolutely no need for it to be above 6. A useful chart:  https://www.instagram.com/p/B-cByGBHHiw/
  Olefin sulfonate is a great surfactant too, but sarcosinate is milder. Olefin Sulfonate lathers better. 

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