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  • Shampoo formula

    Posted by Joseph141 on January 24, 2023 at 12:07 pm

    Can anyone give me a simple shampoo formula containing sles 28% active, coco betaine and coco dea and something I can add to give very slight moisturising effect. Many of 

    Joseph141 replied 1 year, 9 months ago 8 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Lab

    Member
    January 24, 2023 at 5:28 pm

    Hi!

    Some suppliers of these raw materials can send you technical materials that have these components in their composition. They’re often a good starting point if you’re undecided (:

  • evchem2

    Member
    January 24, 2023 at 7:19 pm
  • ozgirl

    Member
    January 24, 2023 at 9:16 pm
    This forum is not for providing formulas it is about helping with formulating issues once you have a formula.

    Where to find Free Cosmetic Formulas

  • Joseph141

    Member
    January 25, 2023 at 8:24 am

    I seem to be getting everyone annoyed by asking for a shampoo formula. The only reason I asked was because I have a formula that has taken me 5 years to get to this point and it is still slightly irritating to my skin and hair is not as soft as I’d like. I decided to make my own as I’m sick of every batch of shampoo I buy feels different on my hair. If anyone would like to help I would be grateful, if not don’t worry. The formula I have is this,
    80ml water
    20ml 28% sles
    2 ml coco betaine 
    0.005 poliquat 7
    0.5 coco dea

  • Joseph141

    Member
    January 25, 2023 at 8:42 am

    Also just to add, my name is Melanie. I accidentally used Joseph as I thought the user name was being used for something else. I’m just someone who has no clue about chemistry but just want tp make my own personal use shampoo. It’s already taken me 5 years to get to this point as i have no idea what  im doing and could have used some help.. no shampoo I buy is leaving my hair feeling light and clean 

  • Abdullah

    Member
    January 25, 2023 at 10:13 am

    Usually most chemists sell Shampoo formulations. Is don’t expect them to give you the best they can for free. But thanks to all of them, they help each other here if they have any problem in their formulas for free. 

    In your formula if you increase pq7 to 2ml it will solve some of your problems. But if you want me to give you the best formula that i can make, i will not do that for free. 
    Hope you understand it. 

  • Lab

    Member
    January 25, 2023 at 11:00 am
    @Joseph141 Sorry if I sounded rude, it wasn’t intentional
    As @Abdullah suggested, increase the PQ7 a little and… add a blend of preservatives to your formulation (1% maybe?). As much as it’s for personal use, it is important to preserve the system so that microorganisms don’t grow (they can often cause damage and allergies and so much more)
  • Joseph141

    Member
    January 25, 2023 at 11:37 am

    No you didn’t sound rude. Thank you. I’ll try what you have suggested. Maybe I’ll have to employ you to create a formula for me :)

  • Paprik

    Member
    January 25, 2023 at 5:54 pm

    @Joseph141, no one is annoyed or being rude, same about you. Chill :) 

    Let us know what ingredients you have on hand and we can put something together. 
    If you are getting irritation, I would stay away from Sulfates - Even tho SLES is ethoxylated, I would simply choose some milder surfactant (maybe personal preference). 

  • Joseph141

    Member
    January 25, 2023 at 6:53 pm

    I have decyl glucoside, coco glucoside and sls as well as the ones already listed although I have always used a sulphate shampoo and had no problems before but they keep changing the ingredients on the shampoos in the shops so I’d now rather just make my own if possible,  thanks paprik

  • Joseph141

    Member
    January 25, 2023 at 7:48 pm

    I also have Sodium Lauryl Sulfoacetate

  • coco

    Member
    January 26, 2023 at 2:50 pm

    Cocamidopropyl betaine
    disodium cocoamphodiacetate
    Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate
    sodium Cocoyl Glutamate
    Decyl, Lauryl glucoside, etc,
    those are some mild surfactants that are good at cleansing. (Available at Formulator sample shop or making cosmetics)
    Add the blend maybe at 30%-40%? (Depending how clean you want your hair)

    Don’t just add 1 surfactant, make your own mix or buy some blend like the extra mild iselux extra mild. The more blend, the milder… (makeyourown.buzz)

    Add some quats: Polyquat 7 at 2% or Guarcat at 0.4% (FSS or Lotioncrafter or Making Cosmetics)

    Add a very good reliable preservative unless you will be using this within literally a few days and stored in the fridge. Little living things feeding off your product and depositing into your hair/ skin is not what you want. 
    Add some water soluble Dimethicone (amodimethicone)if you don’t mind the “cone” to make hair softer and easier to comb. (Making cosmetics).

    The more research you do on your own the more you will learn. 

  • Joseph141

    Member
    January 28, 2023 at 6:24 pm

    Hi coco, thanks for your help.. when you say blend at 30/40% do you mean e.g 30ml of surfactant blend in say 70ml water?

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    January 29, 2023 at 5:27 am

    If you have a corporate domain, you can subscribe to several professional magazines that publish suppliers’ generic formulas. Most known are:

    https://www.personalcaremagazine.com/
    https://www.happi.com/ and 
    https://www.cosmeticsandtoiletries.com/

    You can also create an account with several large suppliers to get access to their example formulae. Not like those are perfect, but at least a starting point and free. Ulprospector and Seppic won’t let you get registered unless you can prove you are in the industry and part of an active business. Others don’t ask questions unless you would try to get a free sample (so my advice is don’t ask, just use their websites for info).

    I haven’t tried to get an account with Stepan (I am not too much into surfs), but this is probably the one you want to consider.

    https://www.stepan.com/content/stepan-dot-com/en.html

    Croda and BASF will let you register as long as you have a corporate domain.

    Dow is the best. All info is in open access. One doesn’t even need an account to access their formulae.

  • Joseph141

    Member
    January 30, 2023 at 6:06 pm
    Thank you so much ngarayeva001. That is so helpful

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