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  • Repackers selling GLDA in the US?

    Posted by Graillotion on May 31, 2021 at 9:42 pm

    Having trouble finding GLDA (chelate) from US based re-packers.  Anyone know of one?

    Thanx!

    Graillotion replied 3 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    May 31, 2021 at 11:51 pm

    Yes, you can get it from http://www.essentialwholesale.com

  • Graillotion

    Member
    June 1, 2021 at 12:02 am

    Yes, you can get it from http://www.essentialwholesale.com

    I checked there before I posted…..didn’t find it.
    I checked there after you posted… didn’t find it.

    Maybe I don’t have the competence to maneuver their site?

    Or do they have some code name for it?

    Is GLDA and TSGD (Tetrasodium Glutamate Diacetate)….synonyms?

  • Graillotion

    Member
    June 1, 2021 at 12:23 am

    Ok…the fog might be starting to clear….GLDA is simply the ‘L’ form of TSGD!?

    So essential wholesale does not state that their TSGD is the ‘L’ form.  However…I got my TSGD from Making cosmetics…and they DO state.. “High purity, versatile and readily biodegradable chelating agent based upon L-glutamic acid

    So I believe I have GLDA in hand already.  (But they also called it TSGD.)

    Please correct me if I am wrong.

    *** And more than likely they got it from the same place….one just used better descriptors than the other. 

  • ozgirl

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    June 1, 2021 at 12:51 am
  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    June 1, 2021 at 11:04 pm

    An issue with re-packers is that sometimes the create their own names … hence TSGD is the MakingCosmetics name for GLDA … yes, both synonyms … best to just search by INCI.  The product is universally referred to as GLDA by every other supplier that I know.

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    June 1, 2021 at 11:25 pm

    Makingcosmetics are the worst when it comes to proper trade names! Don’t use them if you are going to scale up or it’s a formula for a client. I figured some of what they sell (like GelMaker PH is Sepimax Zen, GelMaker EMU is Simulgel EG, Triglycerides Blend is very likely Softisan 378, etc) but what are you going to do with products like GelMaker Powder? By INCI it could be Ultrez 20, Ultrez 21, Pemulen EZ4U or something else.

  • Graillotion

    Member
    June 2, 2021 at 12:45 am

    An issue with re-packers is that sometimes the create their own names … hence TSGD is the MakingCosmetics name for GLDA … yes, both synonyms … best to just search by INCI.  The product is universally referred to as GLDA by every other supplier that I know.

    Both are using the INCI: Tetrasodium glutamate diacetate

    Which is not overly helpful!

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    June 2, 2021 at 1:41 am

    @graillotion:

    It’s a chelating agent … the chirality of the source molecule is of no consequence since it is not involved in a biological process where a specific enantiomer can be metabolized and another cannot.  For a chelating agent, it’s a distinction without a difference … it will bind heavy metals.

  • Graillotion

    Member
    June 2, 2021 at 2:46 am

    @graillotion:

    It’s a chelating agent … the chirality of the source molecule is of no consequence since it is not involved in a biological process where a specific enantiomer can be metabolized and another cannot.  For a chelating agent, it’s a distinction without a difference … it will bind heavy metals.

    But does that difference….have any significance with how it will perform with a cationic emulsifier?  That was my area of concern.

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