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  • Refill shampoo tablets

    Posted by zeyneb-chem on October 10, 2024 at 3:52 am

    Hi everyone,i’m trying to develop a new formula of shampoo like in this image, this is a new generation “shampoo tablets “, after some reaserchers i didn’t find any formula about it, however the commun ingredient is a powder surfactants like a shampoo bar, my qst is what do u think about ingredients

    Cafe33 replied 4 weeks ago 4 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Aniela

    Member
    October 13, 2024 at 11:56 am

    Hello, I assume you forgot to post the ingredients and your possible approach to create the product. The more specific the question, the higher the probability to receive useful comments.

    • zeyneb-chem

      Member
      October 15, 2024 at 3:09 am

      thank u aniela for your replay, i didn’ post ingrdients cuz i have no idea about it only surfactant like : scs sci and capb

      look at the inci list of “avril shampoo”

      INCI : Sodium coco-sulfate, Erythritol (Tetrahydroxybutane), Citric acid, Xanthan gum, Sodium gluconate, Cocamidopropyl betaine, Sodium bicarbonate, Water, Perfume, Potassium sorbate, Sodium benzoate (sodium salt of benzoic acid), Sodium chloride (salt), Hydrogenated corn starch hydrolysate, Aloe leaf juice powder*

      • Aniela

        Member
        October 15, 2024 at 2:10 pm

        Even it is in tablet form, it is not as difficult as it looks.

        I would start with a powder form- it can be pressed later in tablet form.

        You just have to use enough % of surfactants, as to have in the shampoo “portion” the right ASM.

        You do know the ingredients, so I suggest you analize them one by one and when it starts making sense for you, design a simple formula and take it from there.

        You do not need any emulsifiers.

        • zeyneb-chem

          Member
          October 20, 2024 at 8:32 am

          thank you i’ll try what u suggested

      • PhilGeis

        Member
        October 18, 2024 at 8:35 am

        Apparent “preservation” is silly. Sodium bicarbonate will offer an alkaline pH - the sorbate benzoate require an acidic pH for any efficacy. Also wonder how this stuff works in hard water.

        Is one tablet used each time one shampoos or diluted in another vessel for use over some time period?

        • Aniela

          Member
          October 18, 2024 at 3:28 pm

          This is their guidance, Dr Geis: “The infinitely reusable bottle comes with three tablets that, once dissolved in hot water, create up to 300ml of cleansing shampoo. This is a refill. It cannot be used on its own. Before use, take your Avril refill bottle and add hot water up to the mark. Then add the 3 tablets. Leave the cap open and wait 12 hours. Close the cap and shake to mix. Your shampoo is ready to use!”

          Regarding the sodium bicarbonate and the pH, they also have citric acid in there- does that make any sense?

          • PhilGeis

            Member
            October 19, 2024 at 4:55 am

            Depends the pH established. This is pretty certain contamination. Tap water typically includes pseudomonads and the preservative system at its best/any pH is poor against it.. Wonder at hair feel if. any hardness

            • zeyneb-chem

              Member
              October 20, 2024 at 8:38 am

              i dissolved one of these tables as they said “on 23/09”, the product is thick and slightly clear, until today everythig is ok th product still thick and slightly clear

            • Aniela

              Member
              October 26, 2024 at 11:27 am

              Hi, if I were you, I would take into consideration @PhilGeis‘ comment (more so, I would ask Dr Geis for preservation advice- after I’d have put together a formula, preservative of choice included).

              Also, “everything is ok” is a less-than-ok statement, as long as you didn’t perform any relevant tests- beginners and professionals alike know that most of the “nasties” can’t be seen with the naked eye.

            • zeyneb-chem

              Member
              October 31, 2024 at 7:50 am

              hi, i understand what u wanna say, but the PH of this shampoo is 4.45 and i didn’t know why they used sodium bicarbonate, the preservative system isnt a big thing for me i can use another preservatives .

              “everything is ok” means the product is stable there is no dephasing problems and it’s a mild shampoo i’m talking like a customer not as a chemist.

    • zeyneb-chem

      Member
      October 15, 2024 at 3:15 am

      + i want to know if i must use emulsifiers or thickeners like other formulas and what about water or hydrosols..ect i wanna just know what i need in general to buy ingredients

  • Cafe33

    Member
    November 24, 2024 at 2:41 pm

    They may be using Sodium Bicarbonate to create effervescence with citric acid

  • zeyneb-chem

    Member
    November 17, 2024 at 4:09 am

    THANK U

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