Problem with disolving Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride

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Problem with disolving Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride

Posted by Rencelj on April 3, 2019 at 9:00 am

Hello all ,

i would like to ask you for sugesstion how to get rid off spots of GHTC. I was see in finish product there are little spots and i asumed it comes from GHTC.
So i used 0.2g of GHTC and 99.8g of water. I heat it to 70 C and mixed with wortex. I slowly added GHTC and was mixing for 15 min. I can see those spots and i am posting picture. Any idea how can i make it completly clear, without those little dots/spots?

http://shrani.si/f/1V/wJ/3JBzGCFE/20190403102721.jpg

Thank you

Greg

Rencelj replied 5 years, 7 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
10 Replies

amitvedakar

Member
April 4, 2019 at 11:04 am

TRY At least 30 minutes high speed Stirring required wit hot water. Or suspend in glycerin and then water.
Rencelj

Member
April 4, 2019 at 12:56 pm

I did try in glycerine and than in water but is same. Also today, after 24h is still with dots/small particles. No orher ingredients, rather water and ghtc.
Rencelj

Member
April 4, 2019 at 6:31 pm

Can Sodium PCA substitute Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride?
pepe

Member
April 5, 2019 at 7:04 am

Greg,

Decrease ph level below 5
Rencelj

Member
April 5, 2019 at 9:55 am

I add citric acit in water befor i put in vortex so it swell better. But check ph.
Trying for shower gel, but wondering if i am better with sodium PCA and sodium lactate.

Thx
Lisani

Member
April 7, 2019 at 3:45 pm

Try to add lactic Acid before the ghtc, around 0.1-0.3%
Rencelj

Member
April 7, 2019 at 5:17 pm

Citric acit did not help/work. Will try tomorrow with lactic acid. With 0.2 and 30 min mix at 70 celsius. Lets see.
Bill_Toge

Member
April 7, 2019 at 5:23 pm

try adding it to cold water - it sounds like it’s hydrating too quickly
Max

Member
April 8, 2019 at 4:37 am

Hello, my experience with Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, I use 3-5% glycerin to make a nice suspension of guar, then I had it VERY slowly to the water at RT, does the trick every time … 🙂 Good luck
Rencelj

Member
April 10, 2019 at 10:54 am

I left our ghtc and replace with sodium pca,lactate and adding sucrose cocoate, but when i add sucrose cocoate it thich whole formula, quite a lot. Do i need to disperse it in soluble surfactant eg.coco glucoside ?