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  • Precipitation with Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate in a makeup remover formulation

    Posted by nshu_14 on February 5, 2025 at 2:29 am

    Hello everyone,

    Can someone help me with the following issue please?

    I prepared a make up formulation containing Sodium cocoyl isethionate (2%) with sophororlipids (3.6%) and my formulation precipitated overnight. Does someone have a guess what might be the cause and which direction shall I take? I would appreciate your suggestions.

    Thank you in advance

    Regards

    nshu_14 replied 4 weeks, 1 day ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • ketchito

    Member
    February 5, 2025 at 7:22 am

    Are those ingredients the only ones in your formula? Where they completely dissolved at the start? What’s the pH of your solution?

    • nshu_14

      Beginning formulator
      February 5, 2025 at 10:10 am

      No. I also used humectants (glycerin, propylene glycol) and xanthan gum. pH is 5.65. It wasnt easy to dissolve so I heated the water to 50 degrees and then SCI was dissolved. The solution was translucent though.

  • ozgirl

    Member
    February 5, 2025 at 4:59 pm

    Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate is not really the best option for clear liquid systems because it is not very soluble. What you are seeing is probably it cooling and precipitating. It can be stabilised but there are much better options out there.

    If you want to stick with isethionates, try using Sodium Lauroyl Methyl Isethionate (Iselux) or try a different surfactant.

  • nshu_14

    Beginning formulator
    February 6, 2025 at 3:18 am

    Thank you so much for your answers. Since I only have this type of isethionate in the lab. But I read that APGs can help with their solubility in water so I tried Lauryl glucoside and it could dissolve and make a transparent clear liquid. However, I am curious about its stability.

    For the stability, do we usually conduct 7-days accelerated test at 50 degrees in addition to 3 months stability at RT and 45degrees?

  • Paprik

    Member
    February 6, 2025 at 3:50 pm

    I believe Cocamidopropyl Betaine also helps to improve SCI solubility in water. Try to add a little, 🙂 Good luck.

    • nshu_14

      Beginning formulator
      February 10, 2025 at 3:01 am

      Hii Paprik, thank you for the recommendation. I tried CAPB also, but precipitation occurred. Had no luck with it. Thanks though.

  • Richard

    Member
    February 6, 2025 at 8:29 pm

    I agree with the earlier comments especially from ozgirl, Iselux is a fantastic alternative, although it is in a cost league of it’s own. pH is also important for SCI and doesn’t like to be below 6. I would reduce the SCI to 1% and replace it with something else that you have - 2% of 50% glucoside for 1% SCI.

    • nshu_14

      Beginning formulator
      February 10, 2025 at 2:57 am

      Thank you @richard I tried your recommendation. Solution is quite clear, no precipitation. I will do the makeup removal efficacy soon. Do you have any suggestions on the related tests for makeup remover formulation?

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