Polysorbate 80 in floor cleaner

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Polysorbate 80 in floor cleaner

Posted by jamsinekhatri on December 6, 2018 at 3:16 pm

Is it okay to use Polysorbate 80 in floor cleaner instead of lauryl alcohol ethoxylate? As Polysorbate is also an nonionic surfactant..

nicotiro replied 5 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 13 Replies
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Fekher

Member
December 6, 2018 at 5:20 pm

@jamsinekhatri i guess that polysorbate 80 can be used in floor cleaner cause it helps in cleaning oils .
Gunther

Member
December 6, 2018 at 9:52 pm

@jamsinekhatri do you need Polysorbate 80 to emulsify fragance or as a cleaning aid?

Floor cleaners aren’t properly rinsed out like shampoos or shower gels,
so you’ll need to make sure ingredients don’t leave a residue on floor.

Too much PS80 may leave a sticky residue.
To exclude all other variables, you can dissolve PS80 in water, mop some floor with it, and compare it too plain demineralized water.
jamsinekhatri

Member
December 7, 2018 at 4:56 am

Fekher said:

@jamsinekhatri i guess that polysorbate 80 can be used in floor cleaner cause it helps in cleaning oils .

Fekher said:

@jamsinekhatri i guess that polysorbate 80 can be used in floor cleaner cause it helps in cleaning oils .

Thanks
jamsinekhatri

Member
December 7, 2018 at 5:00 am

Gunther said:

@jamsinekhatri do you need Polysorbate 80 to emulsify fragance or as a cleaning aid?

Floor cleaners aren’t properly rinsed out like shampoos or shower gels,
so you’ll need to make sure ingredients don’t leave a residue on floor.

Too much PS80 may leave a sticky residue.
To exclude all other variables, you can dissolve PS80 in water, mop some floor with it, and compare it too plain demineralized water.

Hi Gunther,

I m only going to use it 1-3% (max) … I m trying to use Polysorbate 80 instead of lauryl Alcohol Ethoxylate .
ravimosai

Member
December 8, 2018 at 4:43 am

Any advice? Should I use Polysorbate 80 (1-3%) in floor cleaner instead of Lauryl Alcohol Ethoxylate?
Gunther

Member
December 8, 2018 at 11:50 pm

@jamsinekhatri is PS80 used as a fragrance solubilizer?
Otherwise I don’t see why you’ll prefer it to alcohol ethoxylates.

For floor cleaners check your local regulations on Volatile Organic Carbon, so you can add some alcohol both for quicker drying and to kill some bacteria on floor.

For a floor cleaner you don’t want too much surfactants, as they ain’t properly rinsed away and can leave a residue on drying.
jamsinekhatri

Member
December 9, 2018 at 2:00 pm

Gunther said:

@jamsinekhatri is PS80 used as a fragrance solubilizer?
Otherwise I don’t see why you’ll prefer it to alcohol ethoxylates.

For floor cleaners check your local regulations on Volatile Organic Carbon, so you can add some alcohol both for quicker drying and to kill some bacteria on floor.

For a floor cleaner you don’t want too much surfactants, as they ain’t properly rinsed away and can leave a residue on drying.

Its hard to get alcohol ethoxylates in India (Delhi). So was just asking. Will it okay to add IPA (8%-10%)?
jamsinekhatri

Member
December 9, 2018 at 4:14 pm

If I use alcohol ethoxylates? What “%” do I need to use?
Gunther

Member
December 9, 2018 at 5:07 pm

I’m pretty sure you can find alcohol ethoxylates in a large city like Delhi
you just need to dig deeper.

For a floor cleaner I believe 8% IPA would be quick drying and but you need to try it to see if it smells too much
you may wish to substitute some alcohol for a glycol ether.
Alkylbenzene sulfonates at 3-5% will provide superior cleaning to alcohol ethoxylates or polysorbates.

You can find great beginner formulas at
pilotchemical.com
jamsinekhatri

Member
December 9, 2018 at 5:38 pm

Gunther said:

I’m pretty sure you can find alcohol ethoxylates in a large city like Delhi
you just need to dig deeper.

For a floor cleaner I believe 8% IPA would be quick drying and but you need to try it to see if it smells too much
you may wish to substitute some alcohol for a glycol ether.
Alkylbenzene sulfonates at 3-5% will provide superior cleaning to alcohol ethoxylates or polysorbates.

You can find great beginner formulas at
pilotchemical.com

LABSA is Alkylbenzene Sulfonates??
Gunther

Member
December 9, 2018 at 6:03 pm

LABSA is the free acid
you’ll need to neutralize it with Sodium hydroxide to get Sodium alkylbenzene sulfonate.

You can also check to see if you can buy the readymade sulfonate.
jamsinekhatri

Member
December 9, 2018 at 6:16 pm

Gunther said:

LABSA is the free acid
you’ll need to neutralize it with Sodium hydroxide to get Sodium alkylbenzene sulfonate.

You can also check to see if you can buy the readymade sulfonate.

I will get alcohol ethoxylates. I think using it 3% max will be good enough.
nicotiro

Member
February 12, 2019 at 12:52 am

Gunther said:

You can find great beginner formulas at
pilotchemical.com

thanks for the link gunther o:)