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  • Organic emulsifiers for w/o

    Posted by Stanley on September 17, 2019 at 1:00 am

    What is a decent emulsifier for a w/silicone emulsion that is organic? I am using this in a facial make up

    OldPerry replied 5 years ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Microformulation

    Member
    September 17, 2019 at 11:24 am

    No offense, but how would a W/Si emulsion be Organic?

  • Pharma

    Member
    September 17, 2019 at 6:41 pm
    @Microformulation Silicon oils contain carbon atoms, hence they are organic (therefore, nearly all emulsifiers are also organic) =) .
    @Stanley: Depending on your definition of organic, you may choose between nearly all emulsifiers (organic in a chemical sense) or nearly non (organic as in organic farming). In the latter case, it depends on the certifying organism/label whether or not they have product X or Y on their list. Some do not allow any pure emulsifiers, others only lecithins, soaps (saponified oils/fats/waxes), and saponins (probably forgot 1 or 2 others…. anyway, all these are not useful for your application). You need something as synthetic as your silicone phase ;) .
  • Microformulation

    Member
    September 17, 2019 at 6:46 pm

    @Pharma I agree completely!

  • Stanley

    Member
    September 18, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    @Microformulation explain that to the biz folks that want a label claim.  Other parts of the formula are there.

  • Microformulation

    Member
    September 18, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    It doesn’t matter what the “biz” people want. Organic has a legal definition in the US. It means the product is compliant and manufactured under the USDA NOP Cosmetics program. To call a product Organic otherwise is false advertising.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    September 18, 2019 at 3:29 pm

    @Microformulation - and if you don’t follow the USDA guidelines, your company can (probably will) get sued. 

    https://www.mariegale.com/lawsuits-organic-cosmetics/

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