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  • Oleth vs. Ceteareth - 10 vs. 20 moles

    Posted by Will on April 24, 2019 at 8:18 am

    Hello guys,

    What are the main differences of those emulsifying agents? In what situation should I choose one over the other?

    Many thanks!

    Will replied 5 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Fekher

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    April 24, 2019 at 12:43 pm

    @Will what i’am sure that there is diffrence in the hlb value may also there is diffrence in fusion temperature.

  • OldPerry

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    April 24, 2019 at 12:50 pm

    This is just a matter of experimenting. One might work better for your particular oil phase but they might just both work fine. The Oleth 10, 20 are liquids so they might be easier to work with.

  • Will

    Member
    April 24, 2019 at 6:43 pm

    Thank you @Fekher and @Perry!

    And what are the advantages of using ethoxylated vs. non-ethoxylated alcohols?

  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    April 25, 2019 at 6:59 pm
    oleth-(n) and ceteareth-(n) give emulsions with very different properties, due to the difference in volume
    ceteareth-(n) is linear, while oleth-(n) is wedge-shaped and takes up more space at the water/oil interface, meaning it results in fewer molecules per micelle and therefore a larger number of micelles; the difference is particularly noticeable at high levels of emulsifier
  • Will

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    April 25, 2019 at 8:44 pm

    Thank you @Bill_Toge! In practical terms, let’s say while making a body cream, what could one expect in terms of texture/consistency/rheology of the final product when choosing ceteareth vs. oleth?

  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    April 27, 2019 at 1:41 pm
    @Will ceteareth-(n) would make it more like a conventional cream, oleth-(n) would make it more fluid, unless used at high levels (10% w/w or more in total), then the product would start to resemble the oil phase itself
    it’s difficult to explain without a physical example to hand
  • Will

    Member
    May 7, 2019 at 6:43 am

    Thanks a lot @Bill_Toge!

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