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  • Need Help For Development Body Wash Formula

    Posted by aab on July 13, 2018 at 1:57 am

    Hello 
    I have a formula of body wash like this

    1. Sles                 10%
    2. Nacl                 3.5%
    3. Foam Booster   3%
    4. Pearls conc       5%
    5. Preservative      1%
    6. EDTA                0.2%
    7. Water                Until 100%

    My Problems are : 

    • Sometimes The Finish Product have good consistency but sometimes it turns to very very liquid,How to Solve That ?
    • The Finish Product Feels Very Slipery on my skin,How To Solve That ?

    Thanks, 
    Hope For Your Help 

     

    belassi replied 6 years, 8 months ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
  • 11 Replies
  • Gunther

    Member
    July 13, 2018 at 3:19 am

    1. Is that 10% active SLES or 10% as-supplied?
    Is it’s 10% active it’s ok, although 8% is a bit better IMO
    if it’s 8% supplied at 70% that’s 7% active, a little low and may cause trouble thickening with salt.

    2. 3.5% salt is too much, That may well be the cause it’s very thin.
    Begin adding salt in 0.25% increments until about the desired viscosity is achieved (it gets at bit thicker in 48-72 hours).

    3. What’s the foam booster composition?

    4. I assume pearls conc is a pearlizer?
    5% might be too much. Usually 3% works fine for most pearlizers.

    5. What’s the preservative composition?

    6. 0.2% EDTA is a bit excessive. 0.1% is enough.

  • aab

    Member
    July 14, 2018 at 1:19 am

    @Gunther Thanks for your respone ;

    1. I think its active sles non 70% sles 

    2. About Salt I’ll Try.

    3. I dont know seller dont tell about the “name” ,my foam booster has colour dark yellow sometimes they send light yellow colour.

    4.yeah u’r right pearlizer,great advice i’ll try 3%

    5.I use DMDM (0.1%) and Denisil (0.05%)

    6.allright i will down the edta use

    But How can i get the finish product on the skin non-sliperry ?

    Thanks  Gunther

  • AFRIDI85

    Member
    July 15, 2018 at 3:50 pm

    @Gunther Hello can you help me that problem.

    why does not perfume remain in Dishwash wash liquid.?
  • belassi

    Member
    July 15, 2018 at 9:08 pm

    It is supposed to be slippery!

  • aab

    Member
    July 16, 2018 at 1:08 am

    @Belassi how to make it non slippery body wash sir ? Because i want to make like LUX body wash..

    thanks for your help sir

  • belassi

    Member
    July 16, 2018 at 5:14 am

    Well copy it. You could have found the formula with Google in 10 seconds like I did. But what the hell is coumarin doing in there? That is a potent liver toxin. And it says “with Egyptian Violet Lead and Elemi oil.” I don’t want to be using that! But what can you expect in Indonesia. They probably still use arsenic and mercury in makeup.
    Basically it is a saponified soap product mixed with some surfactant. No thanks.

  • aab

    Member
    July 16, 2018 at 6:55 am

    @Belassi you’r right sir..because of that fact, i want to make “safe” body wash for me and my family,,because in here there are many cosmetics use harsh chemichal (poisonious)..maybe can I studying some knowledge with u sir ?

  • Sibech

    Member
    July 16, 2018 at 9:33 am

    @Belassi it is obviously there as a perfuming agent in concentrations >100ppm.

  • belassi

    Member
    July 16, 2018 at 1:20 pm

    @aab: You know, it would have been far, far better to explain from the very first post, why you wanted to make it, what product you wanted to emulate, and where you are. I’m sorry but we get so many posts, vague and undefined (there was even one asking how to make shampoo out of camel urine a while ago) that I have begun to develop a low tolerance, I’m afraid.
    OK I will try to help. But there are others here who I am sure have designed similar products. I know about saponification and synthetic surfactants but I have never tried to combine them.
    1. Lux used potassium hydroxide to make a water soluble soap. Your difficulty is going to be sourcing the correct fatty acids. KOH produces insoluble soap with some fatty acids and so you cannot use vegetable oils because you will end up with layers separating out over time. You must use the same ones Lux used.
    2. When you have the correct acids, use soapcalc.net saponification calculator to give you the correct proportions and use 0% excess oil.
    3. After making the liquid soap - the reaction is very fast, avoid clumping - it will be like a paste you will need to dissolve it - you will add the synthetic surfactant and you will need to experiment with that to find your preferred percentages and viscosity. Dissolve the fragrance in the surfactant before you add it to the soap.
    Lux are using SLES and CAPB but also an emulsifier and you will need a preservative, I suggest you use parabens.
    Perhaps others with more experience than I will chip in.
    This is not a project for beginners, it may take you months to come up with a workable product. It is far easier to design synthetic body wash products.
    @sibech: and the lead?

  • Sibech

    Member
    July 16, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    @belassi I think the lead was added as a way to inrease density so the bubbles would remain on the skin and not fly away as soon as you lather the soap!

  • belassi

    Member
    July 16, 2018 at 11:42 pm

    LOL!

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