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  • Natural preservative replacement for Germall Plus

    Posted by Anca_Formulator on March 28, 2022 at 8:17 pm

    Hi, 

    I made an emulsion with Heliosoft/Siligel. The pH is 5.25-5.5.     

    I have always used Germall Plus in my emulsions, so they have been 99.5% natural. I love Germall Plus, it’s solid!

    If I were to replace Germall with a natural broad spectrum preservative, what are some options that people have gotten good results with? 

    My Contract Manufacturer is suggesting Linatural MBS-1 ( (Propanediol, Ethylhexylglycerin, Potassium Sorbate) or Troycare FE01(Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate and Phenoxyethanol). 

    I have heard not so good things about Linatural, and I am not familiar with Troycare. 

    What are your thoughts/suggestions based on your experience? 

    Thank you so much!

    Abdullah replied 2 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
  • 11 Replies
  • OldPerry

    Member
    March 28, 2022 at 8:20 pm

    Of those two, Troycare sounds preferred. At least it has some reasonable preservatives in it.  Linatural…not so much.  Those are preservative “boosters”. 

  • Anca_Formulator

    Member
    March 28, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    @Perry Thank you! I would prefer not to swap Germall Plus, but I am concerned about the bad rep formaldehyde releasers have for the average customer

  • Anca_Formulator

    Member
    March 28, 2022 at 8:25 pm

    @Perry Is there another option you would recommend aside from Troycare?

  • Graillotion

    Member
    March 29, 2022 at 3:18 am

    I’m kinda Coocoo for cocoa puffs…but here is the program I use…and my crap last for years and years.

    E 9010
    +
    TSGD aka GLDA
    +
    Hydroxyacetophenone
    +
    4.8 pH (and 5.2 when using HydroVance)

    A nice jag of glycols, especially Pentylene glycol, but also a splash of 1,2-hexanediol, caprylyl glycol.
    +
    phenethyl alcohol (as several of my products are creams).

    As you can see….the hurdle approach is used…except for the creams…: where I drop the ball with packaging. :) 

    So my big recommendation for you…would be lower your pH to 4.5 to 4.8, as you are almost to the safer zone. That will take you miles.  Never hurts to toss a kiss of TEC in there as well…just to keep everything minding their P’s and Q’s.

    Aloha.

  • Abdullah

    Member
    March 29, 2022 at 11:28 am

    Troycare FE01 is my favorite

  • Anca_Formulator

    Member
    March 29, 2022 at 2:33 pm

    @Graillotion Wowza! Thanks for the secret sauce recipe ;-). Never would I have put all of those things together. What does TSGD aka GLDA stand for?

  • Anca_Formulator

    Member
    March 29, 2022 at 2:33 pm

    @ Abdullah Thank you ;-)

  • Graillotion

    Member
    March 29, 2022 at 3:06 pm

    @Graillotion Wowza! Thanks for the secret sauce recipe ;-). Never would I have put all of those things together. What does TSGD aka GLDA stand for?

    That is a natural chelate.

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    March 29, 2022 at 3:26 pm

    GLDA is  biodegrable not natural.  Synthetic product of glutamic acid.

  • Anca_Formulator

    Member
    May 20, 2022 at 1:41 am

    Abdullah said:

    Troycare FE01 is my favorite

    Where do you get yours from? Do you know any resellers? I can’t find it in quantities less than 45 lbs and that is much more than I need. 

  • Abdullah

    Member
    May 20, 2022 at 3:11 am

    Abdullah said:

    Troycare FE01 is my favorite

    Where do you get yours from? Do you know any resellers? I can’t find it in quantities less than 45 lbs and that is much more than I need. 

    I am not currently using it but i will when i finish my caprylhydroxamic acid stock.

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