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  • Mixing cetyl alcohol and stearyl alcohol to get good Cetearyl Alcohol ?

    Posted by sazerac on February 11, 2022 at 1:45 am

    I know that I can buy Cetearyl Alcohol, but I have a ton of cetyl acohol and I can buy some stearyl alcohol. 
    If I melt and mix the cetyl and stearyl together in the 30/70 ratio, will the resulting product be essentially Cetearyl Alcohol?
    Or is there a special process which makes it Cetearyl Alcohol? 

    Abdullah replied 2 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 5 Replies
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  • chemicalmatt

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    February 11, 2022 at 3:03 pm

    There are different ratios of C16:C18 for these. The 30:70 is more generally used but I’ve always preferred the 50:50 material finding the extra cetyl provides easier lamellar liquid crystal formation. Proctor & Gamble figured all this out many years ago when they had the fatty alcohol market homogenized, and P&G still makes and uses a boatload of material every day.  

  • Abdullah

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    February 11, 2022 at 3:30 pm

    @chemicalmatt which one provides easier lamellar liquid crystal formation? 
    50:50 or cetyl alcohol alone? 

  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    February 11, 2022 at 8:30 pm

    My choice would be cetyl alcohol alone in most formulations. Where you have GMS, stearic acid, sucrose stearate, etc. etc. mainly C18 moities, the cetearyl would behave better. 

  • Pharma

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    February 11, 2022 at 9:04 pm
    I’m completely with @chemicalmatt here.
    However, some scientific publications (not by P&G :smiley: ) indicate the same increase in stability. The issue is that the ones I’ve read didn’t use C18 stuff or in a way where it can’t be used… Anyway, it seems as if, at least in some formulations, fatty alcohols wouldn’t align with emulsifiers in a way which is usually depicted. They seem to be slightly offset towards the oil phase and hence, it might well be that the C16:C18 blend performs better even if in a C18 dominated formulation (which remains to be demonstrated). Could it be calculated or predicted? Not that I know of. Maybe in very simple mixtures using COSMO-RS?
  • Bill_Toge

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    February 11, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    in my experience, I’ve found that all three can be used interchangeably, but cetearyl alcohol is the cheapest

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