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  • MAKING HAIR TONIC, NEED ADVISE

    Posted by quangphu1301 on February 15, 2017 at 4:52 am

    hi bros, I’m making a organic hair tonic currently, it contains mostly oils like argan oil, jojoba oil, almond oil etc and essential oils.
    Its quite good for conditioning and prestyling, but I really wanna make it lighter, less oily and greasy. Do you have any idea ? what can I add to the tonic to make it lighter ? (sorry if my english is bad)
    P/s : can I add dimethicone or cyclomethicone ? they’re quite popular  in cream and oil products

    DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ replied 7 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Bobzchemist

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    February 15, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    You could, but then you wouldn’t be organic anymore.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    February 15, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    @Bobzchemist - Unless you were using the term “organic” like a chemist.  Dimethicone is a hydrocarbon.

  • quangphu1301

    Member
    February 16, 2017 at 2:23 am

    okay thank you, I thought if I just use them at rate 2-3% my product still counted as organic ?

  • Microformulation

    Member
    February 16, 2017 at 6:14 pm

    What is your definition of “organic” and more importantly does your region have a legally defined term for “organic?”

    In the US, if you used these ingredients even at a hundredth of a percent or lower and wanted to be ethical, honest and transparent, the answer is no, it would not be considered “Organic’ (USDA NOP).

  • OldPerry

    Member
    February 16, 2017 at 8:32 pm

    @Microformulation - I’d add, if your product showed up in California with the word “organic” on it and dimethicone listed you’d also probably get sued.

  • Microformulation

    Member
    February 16, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    I follow the market closely. If you see some of the class action suits, you would probably face some sort of suit in any state. The Honest Company and several other companies have faced class action lawsuits behind “natural” and “organic” claims. Since the attorneys collect the bulk of the fees and the defendant generally settles quickly out of court, these suits are gaining in popularity.

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    February 17, 2017 at 3:16 am

    Try Emogreen from Seppic … you won’t be able to get an Organic Certification, but you’ll achieve your objective and your product will be all Natural.  

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

    Member
    February 20, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    lower the jojoba oil and replace with sweet almond oil-jojoba is mainly esters and most heavy

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