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  • Make oil based concealer more sticky? Slides off pimples

    Posted by Zink on September 20, 2016 at 6:05 am

    I’m working on improving a high coverage concealer with the following base formula (sans actives and pigments), in no particular order:

    Carthamus Tinctorius (Safflower) Seed Oil, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Ricinus Communis (Castor) Seed Oil, Squalane, Tocopherol, Euphorbia Cerifera (Candelilla) Wax, Isododecane.

    One piece of feedback I’ve gotten is that it slips off acne too easily, and ideas of how to fix this? What comes to mind would be increasing the Castor Seed Oil or even Tocopherol concentrations or replacing some of the Candelilla Wax with Beeswax to make it more sticky, but there might be other ingredients well suited for this that I’m unaware off.

    Ideas?

    Zink replied 8 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    September 20, 2016 at 6:57 am

    try adding microcrystalline wax

    it’ll make the product waxier and less slippy without radically altering the rheology

  • Zink

    Member
    September 21, 2016 at 1:44 am

    Thanks Bill, what ballpark % do you think could work?  I noticed I only have Ozokerite Wax, think it could work instead?

  • Candace

    Member
    September 21, 2016 at 1:51 am

    In my opinion there are too many heavy oils/butter in your formulation.  If you used lighter oils (combined with a wax of some kind to thicken it), the product would absorb into the skin, leaving the pigment on the surface.  This would make it longer lasting - rather than sliding right off with the heavy oils.
      
    Maybe even replace some of the thicker oils with a triglyceride to make it lighter.  I would never use Castor Oil or Shea Butter in a concealer. 
    Hope this helps!  

  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    September 21, 2016 at 10:18 am

    @Zink probably not, ozokerite is a very different kind of wax to microcrystalline; it’s hard, brittle and more like beeswax

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    September 21, 2016 at 2:00 pm

    @Candace hit it out of the park on this one. You need to have the concealer film ultimately left on the face be as “sticky” and have as much powder as possible - but that would be almost impossible to spread initially, So, you need some components that will improve initial slip, and then go away. If you can’t use water or any other volatile that will go away into the atmosphere, then you have to use ingredients that will go away in the other direction - into the skin. 

  • Zink

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 7:20 am

    Thanks @Candance and @Bobzchemist 

    You’re probably right, although there as much isododecane in the formula as there is shea and castor seed oil combined. I will try to replace them with triglyceride and perhaps add some microcrystalline wax if necessary. Caprylyl methicone could also work here I imagine.

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    You need more absorbent materials than triglycerides. Diisopropyl Adipate, or Neopentyl Glycol Dicaprylate/Dicaprate, for example. 

  • Zink

    Member
    September 23, 2016 at 4:30 am

    Interesting, anything that’s more readily available? Seems like both of those only come in 35 lb pails and this’ll be small scale to begin with.

  • beautynerd

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    September 23, 2016 at 7:25 am
  • beautynerd

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    September 23, 2016 at 7:54 am
  • Zink

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    Ordered samples of propanediol dicaprylate, Neopentyl Glycol Diethylhexanoate and Diisopropyl Adipate. Any usage rate estimates would be helpful.

    Made a different version of the formula where shea and castor seed oil got replaced by microcrystalline wax and caprylic/capric triglycerides respectively. Will see tomorrow how it compares!

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