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labelling of surfactants according to active%
Hi all
I am trying to dupe a product with the ingredients I have,
here is the list of ingredients-Aqua (Water), Glycerin, Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate, Disodium Cocoamphodiacetate, Lauryl Betaine, Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate, Acrylates/ C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Styrene/Acrylates Copolymer, Aminomethyl Propanol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben.
Only one thing I know is 15% glycerin
I am trying to understand if the above surfactants are listed in order of addition or inorder of % active.
If they r listed in % active, my formula would be
Water qs
GLycerin 15
Na L Sarcosicnate 10% active
CAPB 3% active
Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate 2% Active
Xantahn Gum 0.5-1%
Sorbitan Caprylate, Propanediol, Benzoic Acid 1%
If they r listed in order of ingredients, my formula would be below, to achive similar active surfactant matter
Water qs
GLycerin 15
Na L Sarcosicnate 15
CAPB 14
Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate 6 Active
Xantahn Gum 0.5-1%
Sorbitan Caprylate, Propanediol, Benzoic Acid 1%
Please let me know what is the industry standard for listing surfs.
Actually would make both versions and see. -
6 Replies
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I am trying to dupe a product
The first thing to do is tell us what that product is that you want to copy.
Second: I doubt those surfactants are individuals in that formulation. It sounds like a proprietary blend plus extras. Possibly from Inolex. Or GAL.
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Hi Belassi,
Thanks for reply,I dont have a vacuum mixer yet. Planning to invest in 100L vaccum mixer very soon, may be in 6months.
Product I am trying to dupe is,
https://www.qvskincare.com.au/product/qv-gentle-body-wash
Always wanted to make a body wash very rich in glycerin. As I am a seasoned soapmaker (coldprocess) and never found a bodywash as moisturising as my Castile soaps. I know that pH of soap is bad, so this what I am trying to achieve, skin friendly pH product with loads of glycerin.Sure they must be blends, But I have CAPB and SCI at hand. As I use them in a facewash. and can easily get Sodium Cocoamphodiacetate and Sarcosinate in smaller quantities. Investing in blends may be a future thing.
Also I am sure surfs are listed according to %active. so I would go with first option.
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Ah it’s an Australian product. Hmmm.
My first observation is to question why did they choose an opaque package?
15% glycerin is very high. I imagine the product would be quite sticky. -
How do you know for sure that glycerin is 15%?
Did you have the product tested at a chemical or chromatography lab?My guess is that glycerin is more like 5%
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Belassi,
It think its famous in Australia and has good reviews. They also have a 60% glycerin body wash for very dry skin. And their price is just $13 USD for 500ml bottle which is a mass market Product. https://www.qvskincare.com.au/product/qv-intensive-moisturising-cleanser
I am going to try make both 15% glycerin and 60% glycerin and see how it goes. And sticky does it, really matter in a bodywash.
And also 15% glycerin is much less costly than 1% Panthenol and 60% glycerin is less costly than 2% Panthenol. (I use 2% Panthenol in my facewash). A
Obviously I am trying to develop something for very dry skin.
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Gunther said:How do you know for sure that glycerin is 15%?
Did you have the product tested at a chemical or chromatography lab?My guess is that glycerin is more like 5%
I have not tested the product, but the website itself mentions 15% glycerin and customers rave about it- non drying body wash in a non premium market.
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