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Isododecane and Dimethicone
Trying to figure out a way to formulate liquid lipsticks. The lipsticks go from liquid to a matte dry finish. A basic ingredient list is: isododecane, Dimethicone, glycerin, castor oil, magnesium stearate, wax, titanium dioxide.
Hope you all can help me! It would be greatly appreciated for some help.
-Alexandra
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8 Replies
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Alexandra, What kind of help do you need ?
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Chances are very, very high that you have listed an incomplete ingredient list. Most manufacturers have done something like this to preserve trade secrets.
The essential question you will have to answer first is - what will hold this lipstick on the lips? All of the ingredients you have listed will wipe away at the slightest touch. -
Hey Bob and Vitalys,
I need help on formulating,I actually got this formula directly from the website that sells their liquid lipsticks except the wax I forgot to put carnauba wax. Another formula list is: Ingredients: Isododecane, Trimethylsiloxysilicate, Cyclopentasiloxane, Kaolin, Dimethicone, Hydrogenated Polyisobutene, Synthetic Beeswax, Silica Dimethyl Silylate, Flavor (Aroma), Tocopheryl Acetate, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Disteardimonium Hectorite, Propylene Carbonate.This one is also directly from the bottle of the lipstick:Isododecane, Dimethicone, Vegetable Glycerin, Castor Seed Oil, Magnesium Stearate, Carnauba Wax, Mica, Titanium Dioxide.I would essentially like to be able to make a liquid lipstick without copying these companies. I have tried to make the second one but it hasn’t been turning out, it turns matte but does not dry on the lips. I must be adding the wrong amount of ingredients or not adding the right ingredients.Hope all you can help me out!-Alexandra -
Alexandra,
I have to know what level you’re at - are you formulating for yourself and friends, as a home-based/small business, or as a professional chemist for a corporation? I ask because I’ve shown folks how to find professional-level formulations before, and it’s led to a lot of frustration, etc,. when they can’t get samples of ingredients or meet suppliers minimum purchase requirements. -
I think you want to make kiss-proof liquid lipstick, if yes I can give some advice。my experience is that high concentration volatility oil or powder make it matte， you say it turns matte but does not dry on the lips， I think the problem maybe you use much more non volatile oil in formula or you grind pigment with non volatile oil。I have make one long lasting lipstick formula—-only D5 and wax， wax will be cover on lip as film when volatile oil gone，also add some film forming likes（Trimethylsiloxysilicate）in formula will be much better！
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Bentone Gel ISD V, Isododecane, Dry pigments, vegetable wax, a little non drying oil (literally very small quantity to cover up the drying effect of the solvents), optimize the formula and you have a smudge proof formula.
PS: I did a mascara with it (basic iron oxides only).
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@alexandrekollman, I also need to know what equipment you have access to in order to make this batch. Do you have a fume hood where you can heat volatile ingredients safely? What will you use to disperse your pigments? How will you mix your formula?
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Hi there,
Does dimethicone mix well with castor oil?
Does dimethicone and isododecane mix well with oils such as castor oil, jojoba oil, and fractionated coconut oil, 1 drop vitamin E, and 1 drop peppermint extract ?
I made a formula, containing the above silicones and oils, but there was some oil floating at the top, which didn’t mix?
I did not heat the above to create my formula, as there were no hard waxes added (excluding jojob oil, a liquid wax).
After the filler formula was added, containing diverse minerals and pigments- this was added to the oil phase and mixed.
Although the formula was good, there was a white cast left lingering on the top, with the floater oil.
I am trying to figure out why?
Thanks,
Manaza
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