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Is “ionic water” bulloney?
Hi… I am wondering if I should pay more attention to the water in my body cream-to-be. Goal is to increase turnover, hydrate & nourish, heal, firm. Is “ionic water” legit? Sounds like bulloney.
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Why you should use de-ionized water.
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No need to think much about whether you have ionic water or not. You won’t notice any difference when combined with functional ingredients in your formula.
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@Perry
Explanation please? I thought for certain ingredients it is absolutely necessary to minimize metal ions present either by using deionized or distilled water + chelating agents, or both, to prevent it creating useless or disruptive bonds (like salicylic acid + iron for example)? -
Perry is joking. All water is “ionic”, a glass of absolutely pure water is actually a mixture of H+ and OH- ions.
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@Belassi
Exactly, even deionized water isn’t without ions strictly speaking.
I find ‘ionic’ water to be very healthy, love to drink it!
@SheilaInBoston
You mentioned a Dr. Josh Axe in another thread. I bet you got the ‘ionic water bulloney’ from there, right? Can’t believe people actually believe the nonsense he’s proclaiming. -
@Doreen81 No, I got the ionic water from Estee Lauder. (See http://www.esteelauder.com/ultimate-lift-regenerating-youth#/2)
Dr. Axe is fantastic on drugless healing. (My bet is that he has a few more believers than anybody on this site…) Here is his answer re. Ionic water:
[After explaining the debate…]
MY ANSWER: Balance is KeyBalance is a key ingredient to life that most people find daunting at best. Whether it pertains to work, family, exercise or diet, finding that 60/40 is an uphill battle.
When it comes to alkaline water, keep in mind that a healthy, nutrition-rich lifestyle filled with plenty of whole, fresh foods is the best way to maintain a proper pH balance. Alkaline water cannot replace essential vitamins and minerals your body needs from food.
I do believe that most people are too acidic and in that case, adding in more vegetables and some fruit would help including:
- Lemons and limes
- Green leafy vegetables like kale and spinach
- Asparagus
- Wheat grass juice
- Seaweed
- Watermelon
- Broccoli
- Grapes
- Celery
- Carrots
- Apples
- Parsley
Also, an overabundance of alkaline water and foods over long periods of time can not only cause alkalosis, throwing your body off-balance and leading to serious health problems, but also inhibit production of pepsin, compromising the stomach’s ability to break down food and proteins.
Whichever your decision, I wouldn’t recommend running out and buying an expensive ionizing filter just yet; the detoxifying qualities it provides can be found in many other filtration systems.
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Re. Ionic water… my assumption was that it somehow helped the behavior of active ingredients, to have the ions on the water manipulated. Obviously.
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It really doesn’t, but you are not the first to make that assumption. It has been suggested as a marketing tool only but really has no bonafide Scientific benefit.
Honestly, Dr. Axe is not very popular not given much credence by the majority of Cosmetic Chemists. He is generally lumped in with Dr. Oz, Davis “Avocado” Wolfe, Goop and other such Pseudoscience.
In my practice, we qualify sources by Journal citations, credentials and published forum. Any sources would be appropriate to present at a graduate level dissertation.
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Dr. Axe usually sites studies from PubMed, etc. Maybe he is showing people his research in response to being lumped with Dr. Oz, etc. I have only been reading his stuff for a couple months, so I am only seeing new content.
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Dr. Axe, no. Cosmetics and Toiletries yes. Dr. Oz, no again. Handbook of Cosmetic and Science, yes. There is a prevailing direction in these examples.
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What do you think of the “Milady Skin Care and Cosmetic Ingredients Dictionary”? Found it on amazon tonight.
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It is a good layperson reference for those who want to know more about the raw materials in their Cosmetics. The entries are brief, accurate and avoid any fearmongering.
However, there are much deeper references available.
https://chemistscorner.com/top-10-book-cosmetic-science-book-resources/
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Dr Axe is not science based. He has the trappings of science but the information he passes along has not been rigorously tested (verified) and some of it has been proven to be false. If you are interested in serious science, he is not worth following. He is a misinformation peddler.
As far as ionic water goes, @Belassi is correct, all water is ionic. When it’s called out in cosmetic marketing, it is just science-sounding, words that are meant to impress consumers who are uneducated about science. There is nothing significantly different about Estee Lauder water or anyone else’s.
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