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  • How would you improve ?

    Posted by filiz on April 1, 2022 at 8:58 am

    Hello, 
    Im working on a hair serum and I need professional opinions about this formulation. How can I improve the sticky feelings and heavy feelings?

    How would you improve ? 

    CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC
    TRIGLYCERIDE 36%
    ISOPROPYL
    MYRISTATE                26,60%
    JOJOBA OIL                                  3,00%
    OLIVE OIL                                    5,00%
    ARGAN OIL                                  2,00%
    SUNFLOWER OIL                          10,00%
    E VİTAMİNİ                                  0,1%
    SWEET ALMOND
    OIL                    10,00%
    HEMP SEED OIL                            5,00%
    Preservative                                 0,8%
    Fragrance                                    1,50%

    thanks :):

    Pb610 replied 2 years, 7 months ago 7 Members · 11 Replies
  • 11 Replies
  • Abdullah

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 12:02 pm

    It is all oils and oils are heavy

  • Camel

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 12:36 pm

    I would reduce fragrance to 1% or less. To make it feel lighter, you could try replacing some of the olive oil and sweet almond oil with a lighter oil like the sunflower seed oil, but I agree with Abdullah. You might consider using esters instead of oils for a less sticky/heavy product. 

  • filiz

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 12:59 pm

    First of all, thank you for replying. What esters would you recommend? @Camel

  • ketchito

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 1:10 pm

    @filiz Even though vegetable oils can make your formula feel heavy, ester in your formula can also contribute, especialy the ones you are using. Try replacing part of them for more volatile lubricants like Emogreen L9 or some of cyclomethicone replacements (Inolex has some nice ones).

    Also, that amount of Isopropyl myristate can increase irritation. Plus, some vegetable oils can be comedogenic, so don’t use too much of them.

  • filiz

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 1:37 pm

    Hi, hope you’re fine @ketchito 
    I’m having a hard time finding some silicone alternatives, frankly. 

    What % do you think isopropyl myristate should be reduced to? and If you have any other suggestions that meet the condition, please let me know  
  • WarrenChemist

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 2:04 pm

    filiz said:

    Hi, hope you’re fine @ketchito 
    I’m having a hard time finding some silicone alternatives, frankly. 

    What % do you think isopropyl myristate should be reduced to? and If you have any other suggestions that meet the condition, please let me know  

    For silicone alternatives I’m fond of the lexfeel series if you can get your hands on them. INCI is diheptyl succinate AND caprylol glycerin/sebacic acid copolymer. 

    I would say no more than 5% isopropyl myristate 

  • Camel

    Member
    April 1, 2022 at 2:21 pm

    filiz said:

    First of all, thank you for replying. What esters would you recommend? @Camel

    You could replace the olive oil with Natrasil (Hydrogenated Ethylhexyl Olivate, Hydrogenated Olive Oil Unsaponifiables) which should be much lighter and less sticky. I like to use it in moisturizers/conditioners. You could also replace the jojoba oil with jojoba esters. Another ingredient you might consider researching is C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate. I don’t have experience with it, though.

    filiz said:

    Hi, hope you’re fine @ketchito 
    I’m having a hard time finding some silicone alternatives, frankly. 

    What % do you think isopropyl myristate should be reduced to? and If you have any other suggestions that meet the condition, please let me know  

    It is hard to find alternatives to silicones without sacrificing performance. Natrasil is marketed as a silicone alternative, but you definitely won’t get the same performance. It’s still an option, though. 

    Most sellers suggest using isopropyl myristate at no more than 10%. 

  • filiz

    Member
    April 6, 2022 at 7:44 am

    @WarrenChemist thanks for giving me some alternatives 

  • filiz

    Member
    April 6, 2022 at 12:01 pm

    @Camel
    Thanks for your detailed answer. It was so useful and I have one more question too… Do you know any thickener for this serum. This formula has very low viscosity 

  • kivangel

    Member
    April 15, 2022 at 5:04 pm

    @filiz what hair type is this oil for? Because it will be way too heavy for anybody except people with very textured, dry, frizzy, super curly hair. The concentration of oil is much too high. Similar to what others suggested, I would replace big part of the oils with dimethicone, isododecane, etc. Why do you want to increase viscosity? Hair serum being thin is usually a good thing, it improves spreadability. And some are packaged in spray bottles, so low viscosity can be desirable. 

  • Pb610

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 3:47 pm

    What exactly are you trying to accomplish @filiz? Are you trying to stimulate hair growth, or just condition the hair itself? Please state clearly the result you’re aiming for.

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