Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating How to increase viscosity and thickness of alpha-olefin sulfonate( AOS 38%)

  • Abdullah

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    June 21, 2022 at 6:48 am

    Add CAPB and NACL

  • drjaysee

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    June 26, 2022 at 4:26 am

    @Abdullah @ketchito I  am making dishwash liquid and I  have seen mixing the fragrance and food colour,if  not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity. Previously you told fragrance oil should be mixed in CAPB and I did so but didn’t get purpose. So please while making these liquid when we should add this fragrance and colour, previously before r after particular step. One more thing what we should use fragrance oil or fragrance liquid extract. I am using essential oil.

  • drjaysee

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    June 26, 2022 at 4:27 am

    @Abdullah @ketchito I  am making dishwash liquid and I  have seen mixing the fragrance and food colour,if  not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity. Previously you told fragrance oil should be mixed in CAPB and I did so but didn’t get purpose. So please while making these liquid when we should add this fragrance and colour, previously before r after particular step. One more thing what we should use fragrance oil or fragrance liquid extract. I am using essential oil.

    *Precisely before or after step

  • ketchito

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    June 27, 2022 at 11:59 am

    @drjayseesunish I wouldn’t use essential oils in a liquid dishwash, it’s expensive, hard to solubilize and can impact viscosity. I’d rather use a common fragrance, which will usually come with a solubilizing system according to your product. That one can be added directly, or pre-solubilized with part of your surfactants.

  • Abdullah

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    June 27, 2022 at 1:00 pm

    @Abdullah @ketchito I  am making dishwash liquid and I  have seen mixing the fragrance and food colour,if  not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity. Previously you told fragrance oil should be mixed in CAPB and I did so but didn’t get purpose. So please while making these liquid when we should add this fragrance and colour, previously before r after particular step. One more thing what we should use fragrance oil or fragrance liquid extract. I am using essential oil.

    What is your formula and procedure?

  • drjaysee

    Member
    June 28, 2022 at 2:55 am

    ketchito said:

    @drjayseesunish I wouldn’t use essential oils in a liquid dishwash, it’s expensive, hard to solubilize and can impact viscosity. I’d rather use a common fragrance, which will usually come with a solubilizing system according to your product. That one can be added directly, or pre-solubilized with part of your surfactants.

    @ketchito thanks a lot ketchito. You don’t know how much eagerness I was waiting your reply ????.

  • drjaysee

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    June 28, 2022 at 4:41 am

    Abdullah said:

    @Abdullah @ketchito I  am making dishwash liquid and I  have seen mixing the fragrance and food colour,if  not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity. Previously you told fragrance oil should be mixed in CAPB and I did so but didn’t get purpose. So please while making these liquid when we should add this fragrance and colour, previously before r after particular step. One more thing what we should use fragrance oil or fragrance liquid extract. I am using essential oil.

    What is your formula and procedure?

    @Abdullah
    1. water labsa NaOH adjust ph 7. Add Sles.
    2 capb. fragrance oil mix together. Cdea.
     3.mix 2 in 1 liquid.
     4.add colour 
    5 NaCl 
    Again see ph and find better action below ph7.

  • Abdullah

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    June 29, 2022 at 4:12 am

    Abdullah said:

    @Abdullah @ketchito I  am making dishwash liquid and I  have seen mixing the fragrance and food colour,if  not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity. Previously you told fragrance oil should be mixed in CAPB and I did so but didn’t get purpose. So please while making these liquid when we should add this fragrance and colour, previously before r after particular step. One more thing what we should use fragrance oil or fragrance liquid extract. I am using essential oil.

    What is your formula and procedure?

    @Abdullah
    1. water labsa NaOH adjust ph 7. Add Sles.
    2 capb. fragrance oil mix together. Cdea.
     3.mix 2 in 1 liquid.
     4.add colour 
    5 NaCl 
    Again see ph and find better action below ph7.

    What is the percentage?

    Does it loss viscosity when you add fragrance?

    “if not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity.” In what sequence it does not lose viscosity? 

  • drjaysee

    Member
    June 29, 2022 at 6:50 am

    Abdullah said:

    Abdullah said:

    @Abdullah @ketchito I  am making dishwash liquid and I  have seen mixing the fragrance and food colour,if  not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity. Previously you told fragrance oil should be mixed in CAPB and I did so but didn’t get purpose. So please while making these liquid when we should add this fragrance and colour, previously before r after particular step. One more thing what we should use fragrance oil or fragrance liquid extract. I am using essential oil.

    What is your formula and procedure?

    @Abdullah
    1. water labsa NaOH adjust ph 7. Add Sles.
    2 capb. fragrance oil mix together. Cdea.
     3.mix 2 in 1 liquid.
     4.add colour 
    5 NaCl 
    Again see ph and find better action below ph7.

    What is the percentage?

    Does it loss viscosity when you add fragrance?

    “if not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity.” In what sequence it does not lose viscosity? 

    @Abdullah yes when mix fragrance then lose its viscosity. 
    Once I made it with same fragrance, not lost viscosity. I forgot to write down as I didn’t think it will be much important . I didn’t remember that particular sequence that’s why I am asking Is there any particular step to add it.

  • ketchito

    Member
    June 29, 2022 at 12:37 pm

    @drjayseesunish Try premixing your fragramce with CDEA, and see how it goes.

  • drjaysee

    Member
    June 30, 2022 at 2:53 am

    ketchito said:

    @drjayseesunish Try premixing your fragramce with CDEA, and see how it goes.

    @ketchito I am mixing CAPB with cdea then add it to liquid. Now should I mix it cdea first then it add to CAPB ? I will try it. Thanks a lot ketchito. 

  • ketchito

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    June 30, 2022 at 11:46 am

    @drjayseesunish I’d add first the CAPB alone to the main batch, almost at the end, and then, I’d premix fragrance with CDEA and add it to the main batch. See how it works.

  • drjaysee

    Member
    June 30, 2022 at 5:01 pm

    ketchito said:

    @drjayseesunish I’d add first the CAPB alone to the main batch, almost at the end, and then, I’d premix fragrance with CDEA and add it to the main batch. See how it works.

    @ketchito ok thanks a lot????

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